unprecedented shock and grief and anxiety, unprecedented danger to american, human rights, unpress debbed tomorrow pressure on problems with staff and cabinet made uniquely difficult by the brother factor. even truman's transition problem was easier than johnson's situation which was extreme. the whole use of shakespeare. takes a shakespeare, not a james reston, and then the kind of following through with the whole king and the brother's king, and do you in a sense make it like a shakespearean drama. which i think sets -- is not like, well, then he did this and then did that and so forth. you step back from the narrative, from the story, and almost tells another story. or tells a way to understand the story. >> guest: yes. well, that's -- yeah. you picked out a -- you said it. i said it for myself. those who read the book know that lyndon johnson and bobby kennedy hated each other. when jack kennedy offered him the vice-presidency, the next day bobby kennedy came down the stairs in the hotel in los angeles three times to try to get lyndon johnson to drop off the ticket. it was the worst -