i ask vice president allawi about the militia prisons. does the government know about the secret prisons run by the shia militias? >> definitely. but they don't want to confront these secret prisons because they are held and controlled by strong militias. >> navai: like jurf al sakhar prison? >> for example. >> navai: over 2,000 men and boys who were taken at razaza checkpoint? >> yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. so nobody knows why they are remaining in prison. the issue here which really is frightening, there is no attention being paid by the government to tackle this, this problem of the arrests, intimidation, and tortures of the, of people. >> navai: the government has not said anything publicly about the disappearances from razaza checkpoint or the prisons. but according to human rights groups, only 65 of the men have been seen again. they were held at a prison run by the hezbollah brigades in jurf al sakhar. >> one of the men released from jurf al sakhar has finally agreed to talk to us, but only on condition of anonymity. when he was relea