tender hooks and then lands and sadat comes down and embraces goal da meir and shangs hand with ariel sharon. people were aghast. jubilant, a sense of unreality that this could happen. and then he went and made his speech in the knesset and it was stern but he expected something in return. and he left jerusalem empty-handed. a lot of that was bus of men begin. his first memory was of polish soldiers flogging a jew. when the nazis invaded poland, his mother was in the hospital and the nazi went through murdering patients in their beds. his father think tied him up with ropes and filled his pockets in rocks and threw him into the river. men begin was hiding and then spent time in the soviet prisons in the gulag before being relished and begin joined a unit and they were sent to palestine, and then he became head of a terrorist organization, and as a terrorist, he was brilliant. there had been very few in history of terrorism that had quite as much affect as menachem begin. he was inventive and imaginative and theatrical. for instance, when the british hanged three terrorists who had been tried

they had the will, as you said, ariel sharon to pull out of gaza. and it was an experiment. and some would argue what what that israeli got was not peaceful but was a hamas takeover of gaza and thousands of rockets being reigned on-- and even further north from southern israeli. >> it depends how you divulge it. ises real did not create an environment that will allow the population of gaza to engage in any progress advice a vees israel. quite the contrary. in the lack of any political horizon, you cannot expect anything different. i'm not in fli way defending the gazan government. but i do think that it is in israel's power. it was then as it is today to change the set of the preconditions that will allow the progress throughout the political horizon. >> could israel have done more? >> israel did 12re7bgen the block aid. but israeli strengthened the block aid is not what caused gaza to elect hamas. hamas was elected pretty quickly after the disengagement. but hamas is a mess, there say reason the egyptians didn't even want it back when they were negotiating a peace treaty wi

will, aerial -- ariel sharon, to pull out of gaza.there was a hamas takeover of gaza and thousands of rockets being rained on southern israel. shimon: israel did not create an environment that would allow the population of gaza to engage in any progress vis-a-vis israel. quite the contrary. the lack of any political horizon, you cannot expect anything different. i am not in any way defending hamas or the gaza government. but i do think it is within israel's power, to change the set of preconditions that would allow progress on the political horizon. dan: daniel, could israel have done more? daniel: israel did strengthen the blockade but that did not allow gaza to elect hamas. hamas was elected quickly after the disengagement. the egyptians wanted it back when they were working on a peace treaty. the more pressing question for peace is the west bank. the question is really, is there a possibility of creating what most people i think still want, which is a two state solution. when shimon talks about the israeli government on roiling --