kelly pfeifer with the california health care foundation, and thank you for being here today. >> oh,hanks for having me. >> i've read several of the articles you've written about opioid addiction, and one of which you talked about prince, the late prince, and stigma and the need for treatment. >> well, prince's story is so tragically common. we have so many people who go into the emergency room, their overdose is reversed, their life is saved, and then they're back in the community and then there's often a death a few weeks later. and if you compare it to how we treat any other condition like a heart attack -- if you go into an emergency department with a heart attack, not only is your life saved, but an entire team of people gather together to make sure this never happens again. you get medications right away, specialists visit you in the hospital, your insurance company might send a case manager to make sure you get all the treatment you need.ll the on the other hand, if you have addiction, your life is saved with a drug that makes you feel horrible, like you're gonna die. you're o