dr. goodwin and visited williamsburg, which had been the capital in the pre-united states days and then theichmond dr. goodwin persuaded him to take an interest in restoring one building and from that, he was restoring the whole of williamsburg. we also went to jo jackson hole, the area below the grand teton mountains, which were being cluttered with signboards and honky-tonk and whatnots. and whatnot.s he was awords, i think creative philanthropist in a very wonderful way. charlie: 55 years. 35 i was employed by him. and for the last 17, i'm chairman of the international advisory committee and i still go on. the last trip to china was for the bank, so i still do things with them and for them, but i have no responsibility for anything that goes on in the bank. charlie: when you look back on your tenure there, how do you assess it? david: from my perspective, it really was made to order because i am interested in all the things i did and it gave me an excuse to do a lot more, so a lot of the people i saw were .erhaps initially for the bank that being a good example, because in this interview