not about george tiller, but it is about somebody a little bit like him in that tradition.st the way it is historically. but it is interesting that these men will, they have literally given up their lives to -- to work with planned parenthood, to basically help women. you're quite right. there's something about men, they're always there. they're always at the center. >> uh-huh. >> what can we do about it? and the assassins are mind. i mean there may have been one woman assassin, but they're mostly all men. that's the act, the more active acts i guess. >> men always screwing things up. >> well, just got to get in there. >> yeah. you finished this -- i'm reading my masking because i want to take the next step here. you finished when? before trump was elected? >> oh, long before. >> long before? >> long before. >> the reason i ask that question is what do you make of the fact, not that it just lands in this trump moment -- we talked about that earlier, but what do you make of the fact that we had so many issues with trump and women? >> i know. >> during this campaign. >> i kno