. >> as we continue our look at san jose literary culture, or from author john markoff in his book machines of loving grace. >> the name of the book is machines of loving grace. the quencher, graham between humans and robots. i got into this book, i guess there's a specific reason and a broad reason. i have been reporting on ai and robotics in silicon valley for the new times for a decade, and it just became an increasingly hot topic, the whole world became interested in robotics and ai and him having in fact which they had had before. the field had always failed. angela didn't feel and begin to succeed. and then specifically i had written an earlier book which was about the prehistory of the personal computer, stuff that happened right around stanford between 65-1975 lead to the rest of the personal computer industry and the modern internet. i noticed right at the dawn of the era of internet -- international computing there were two labs that were created, equidistant from stanford. one was started by man by the name of john mccarthy, and well-known computer scientist and yet coined the te