yes, i was minister of women affairs. 20,000 matabele people killed.as minister of women affairs. you knew it. you did not say a word against it. i did not say a word against it but those were executive orders that were used by the fifth brigade, and i'm sure with an executive person what else would you do? but, i'm sorry, how can you persuade the citizens that you believe in freedom, democracy, prosperity when your record is so appalling. you didn't walk away from government. you never stood up to robert mugabe. zimbabweans, as much as we would know they would not forget what they have gone through. but what they are looking forward to now is a good future. they are now futuristic. theyjudge people on their record. they judge. .. hang on. in the past you've tried to say you didn't even know that the gukurahundi killings were happening. are you now prepared to say that is not true? you certainly knew, you just did nothing about it. you know, when they ask me about it, because i said by association i was in government, but when you say when it was being