joining me now to further discuss health care and the impasse phil rutger, the detailing the back story of how president trump tried to marshal support for the bill. it's a terrific read and senior correspondent for kaiser health news. mary agnes carry. health care law is tough, right? this is the ultimate sausage factory, isn't that the lesson? >> absolutely, true. it's so hard to get consensus within your own parties with republicans, it's hard to find policy solutions that work for everyone. it's very, very difficult and i think paul ryan and house republicans and president trump found that out in their efforts to try to overhaul the affordable care act. >> and to your observation, mary agnes, even if this has been successful, it faced doom in the united states senate. >> absolutely. you had moderates there including susan collins of maine, very concerned about the changes in the medicaid funding structure. there were kerchz the subsidies simply wouldn't be enough to help people afford coverage. there were a lot of concerns that faced a lot of opposition in the senate. >> phil rutger

and the "washington post's" phil rutger who's been all over this thing. carol, did you notice the way that this young, relatively young member of congress, nunes from california, i don't know much about the guy, treating the president like he's a little baby. you know, he gets a little upset once in a while, says things he really shouldn't and doesn't have the help of advisers like lawyers around him so he does things that really don't make much sense, but we shouldn't blame him because he's a neophyte. he's a neophyte. >> yeah. there's definitely -- >> that's a defense. that's what a criticism looks like. >> there's -- that's the republicans -- the republicans -- >> why are so they -- >> they're greading him on a curve. >> they're helping him hide. by the way, boehner, when trump was running around saying obama was an illegal ill grant frmmig kenya, people asked him, tell your fellow members it's not true, he said i don't tell them how to think. this is the way they behave in the republican party today. they're so intimidated by this guy, trump, that the

. >> the president's frame of mind over the weekend, and my colleagues, bob costa and phil rutgers and ashley parker did some amazing reporting about what it was like in mar-a-lago in the oval office. the president goes into the weekend absolutely livid that he believes jeff sessions should not have recused himself and there has not been a strong enough defense of him, that they should be pushing back. against that we have these four really incendiary tweets. i think ultimately if it turns out there is no evidence of wiretapping, that is going to be our explanation as to why all this happened. >> that's the art of the segue. up next, the president of the united states is described by friends and aides as angry, frustrated, and convinced. there's a coordinated campaign to undermine him. as after a dvt blood clot,ital i sure had a lot to think about. what about the people i care about? ...including this little girl. and what if this happened again? i was given warfarin in the hospital, but wondered, was this the best treatment for me? so i asked my doctor. and he recommended eliquis. eli

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phil rutger said last night he had 17 sources. that's telling you something about leaking.t i would recommend to people that work inside the white house is that, you know, there's an expression about being silent could help the president. so, think about when you are talking to a journalist, what is in the best interest of the unit states and the arican president. my advice to those people is stay solid for a while and execute a plan as opposed to having all these massive leaks. >> i have spoken to people inside the white house who confirmed there is quite a bit of chaos in there. if you look on friday, president trump lecturing reince priebus and steven bannon. when you think about the people inside the white house, at some point, do you start to say, this argument, we are going to play the long game. take the president seriously, not literally. we wait until he gets to policy. at some point, while things are getting so toxic, so venomous, does silence men complacency? >> i don't see -- i mean, i think we can call the president a lot of different things -- >> we are talkin

well, the "washington post's" robert costa and phil rutger report trump allies worry it would factturend middle class voters, many older and sub ssisting on federal aid. joe kennedy is from mt massachusetts and dane ma milbank from the "washington post." dana, it's not just the trump people, trump, himself, are hoping obamacare dies somehow fiscally over the next couple years, they're doing what they can to make sure it does. >> nothing short of sabotage. think about it, right before the deadline for signups, they pauled the ads on tv and online. signed an executive order basically saying we're not going to forenforce that individual mandate, giving people no reason to sign up, constantly talk about repeal, how this thing is going to be done which makes the insurers bail out of the market. that's why the premiums have gone up. they basically created this disaster and said, look, obamacare failed. >> congressman, i don't hear anybody saying how great this republican plan is. i know there's a mixed -- you as a -- i know how congresspeople operate. you've got constituents constantly telli