paul ryan, the house pespeaker, said he still has faith in devin nunes and supports devin nunes. at the same time, devin nunes thought it was a distraction. >> this is a big deal. if you're just joining us. this was a man defiant in the face of critics, some from his own party, going to the white house, bringing this intelligence. this is someone who time and time again refused to recuse himself, insisting he could lead an independent investigation on the house side. now manu raju with us who has been following him every step of the way, lhe would not answer whether this was because of paul ryan. he is blaming what he calls left wing activist groups for ethics violation complaints they brought. this is the first -- john and i have heard of this. what is he talking about. >> those complaints were levelled in the aftermath of how he briefed the president on the surveillance information. the allegations that he may have mishandled classified information, but really that appears to be covered in a lot of ways. members of congress are hit with ethics complaints all the time. a lot of

nunes. >> it's been painful for devin nunes. devon, we have not talked in several months through this whole process the senate and house committee we are each running our own independent investigation. i would encourage devin to make sure he shares at least with the ranking member of the committee that they do that in the days ahead. i can tell you as a person who is a christian i believe in forgiveness and redemption. they have to find a way to be able to bury the hatchet and move on as a committee. the work of the committee is so exceptionally important. >> martha: indeed it is. senator lankford, thank you very much. good to have you here tonight, sir. >> thank you. >> martha: new reaction to a series of fierce denials coming out of kremlin starting with the russian president vladimir putin who said that alleged russian meddling in the 2016 election is purely political. watch this. >> anti-russian is play plagued political forces inside the united states to trade on that and positions inside. >> martha: same was heard from rus

he says the relationship between the white house and devin nunes makes devin nunes unfit to lead the investigation. >> we ever oo serious job -- we have a serious job to look into this. >> reporter: he says his committee will continue to investigate but devin nunes should recuse himself from russia related matters. >> i am going forward. my colleagues are going forward. if the chairman wants to be credible on non-russia related matters he should step aside. >> reporter: jackie speier is also on the house intelligence committee and she told us that the not good enough. devin nunes should be off the committee all together. >> i think he should be asked to leave the committee because we have over sight responsibility. over the intelligence community generally and i fear his closeinous to the president -- closeness to the president won't allow him to be objective. >> reporter: devin nunes canceled committee hearings that were scheduled for last week and he hasn't give an new date. melissa cane, kpix 5. >> coming up why officials say more and more people are turning to oakland when they t

here at this banquets devin nunes was scheduled to speak at 1:00 p.m. today. instead, he spoke at noon and then left by a side door and bypassed hundreds of constituents who came out to protest what they claim is a cozy and protective relationship with the trump administration and also his refusal to hold town hall meetings with them. ♪[ music ] >> reporter: it's not something you normally hear in fresno. ♪[ music ] >> reporter: the russian national anthem. protestors' way of greeting congressman devin nunes. [ yelling ] >> reporter: he spoke at the annual meeting of the agricultural lenders society of california. >> we decided to do something so we went down the beginning of february and we went and stood in front of devin nunes' office. >> reporter: dave derby lives in his district and hasn't been involved in politics since the '60s. he says he and his wife have been to nunes' office every tuesday since february asking to speak with the congressman. >> and every tuesday 11:45 to 12:45, we have about 20 to 30 people off and on come down. >> reporter: but nune

devin nunes has the support of house speaker paul ryan. paul ryan today still says he has full confidence in chairman nunes. so was there momentum building within the building you're in or was is it something else. you know, that's a great question, kate. i asked paul ryan in the press conference on tuesday about devin nunes. he said i have full confidence in him. he also noted he did privately meet with the house intelligence committee and said this is going to move this is going to get back on track. does that mean he urged nunes to step aside. we don't know that yet. when i tried to get an answer to that question in the press conference, he did not respond. clearly recognizing it's a distraction. saying in a statement that having nunes on board was a distraction especially in light of the announcement by the house ethics committee that it is investigating whether or not mr. nunes had disclosed any classified information. now, i can tell you, though, kate, yesterday and the day before, you could tell from mr. nunes his demeanor had chang

>> this was devin's decision.ake sure there was no distraction in the russia portion of the probe. so devin decided to move forward that way. we have 100% support behind devin nunes. >> kevin mccarthy responding to the breaking news that chairman of the house intelligence committee, devin nunes, has decided to step aside from the investigation into russia's meddling of the u.s. election amid mounting controversy. the first time we've heard from him on that. nbc's hallie jackson is back with us from florida and has fresh reaction to all of this breaking news from the white house. what are you hearing? >> hey, kristen. we're hearing from press secretary sean spicer, making a couple points. number one, arguing it is up to the house to decide what to do with devin nunes. that is something the press secretary is telling our colleagues back at the white house. number two, and you heard kevin mccarthy elude to this, the idea that this was a distraction and they didn't want it to be a distraction. sean spicer is saying we

houseel chair devin nunes is stepping aside from the committee's russia investigation. he is also facing an ethics investigation for allegedly disclosing classified intelligence. we'll have the latest from capitol hill. >>> and clashing agendas. president trump hosts the chinese president at his florida estate. starting today, what both leaders want from the meetings and will trump stick to the campaign promises on trade with china? >>> good morning, everyone. i'm ali in washington, where it is a busy and rainy day for the trump administration on multiple fronts. let's start with the breaking news i just mentioned. we learned just over an hour ago that em battled house intelligence committee chairman devin nunes will step aside from leading his committee's investigations in russian meddling in the election. whether there was any collusion between moscow and the trump campaign. also on capitol hill, right now, the u.s. senate is heading toward what the "new york times" calls a rattling confrontation over the nomination of judge neil gorsuch to the supreme court. the sena

and they have gopten themselves in this problem with devin nunes. and the president is inflicting this wound on himself and his administration. >> and it is a bacteria that has spread across the capitol. it overshadowed the confirmation hearings for neil gorsuch. it played out while republicans stumbled on healthcare. it is tying the up the ability to get a spending bill done because this festers. we go a few days with nothing. and suddenly devin nunes and schiff announce a new surprise that totally up ends things. and i call it a bacteria and not a virus because a virus takes time to cure itself. a bacteria can be cured very quickly with medicine. there are so many republicans who say if only they would shut up and get out of the way. or get everything out there and let the investigators deal with it. and move on then we would be able to move on and focus more substantively on the investigation. robert: the challenge, i encountered the same challenges among many republicans. you have the controversy with devin nunes, you have the flynn immunity sit

he says the relationship between the white house and devin nunes makes devin nunes ubfit to lead the addiction unfit to lead the investigation. >> when the -- unfit to lead the investigation. >> that crossed the line. >> reporter: his committee will continue to investigate but devin nunes should recuse himself from russia related matters. >> i am going forward. my colleagues are going forward. if the chairman wants to be credible on non-russia related matters he should step aside. >> reporter: jackie speier is also on the house intelligence committee and she told us today that is not good enough. devin nunes should be off the committee all together. >> i think he should be asked to leave the committee because we have over sight responsibilities over the intelligence community and i fear that his closeness to the president is not going to allow him to be objective and independent. >> reporter: devin nunes is refusing calls for him to step down but he also canceled committee hearings. in the news room, melissa caen, kpix 5. >>> president trump played golf today with senator rand paul o

reporter: so devin nunes made some mistakes? speaker: that is not the case. chairman nunes wants to make sure this is not a distraction to an important investigation. and wants to clear himself without any kinds of distractions. reporter: given the fact that you say you have your support, you reiterated your trust in him but it has been a distraction, , does he -- do you still have confidence in him. speaker: i do. >> last question. reporter: the freedom caucus wants an amendment. on amendment to the community rating requirement. can you commit to -- the -- the speaker: i'm not going to get into the details, but we believe there are ideas that can do both things. protect people's pre-existing and more insurers can come into the marketplace. one concern is that insurers are leaving left and right. and some people are left with no choices. that is not good. having a monopoly is not a choice, it's a monopoly. we are trying to find more insurers into the marketplace of people have more choices and more competition and with more competition, you have lower prices

he also spoke about devin nune'' decision to step aside from the russian investigation. this is 15 minutes. mr. ryan: good morning, everybody. everybody is just getting off the bus right now. [laughter] this has been a very productive week in the house as we continue our efforts to repeal and replace obamacare. this promise is just too important and the consequences of inaction are too dire for american families. we cannot just give up. that is why over the last couple of weeks, we have encouraged members from across the conference and you see many of them represented here today, we encouraged members to find consensus. in particular, i want to thank kevin brady and greg walden. while we have work to do to get there, we have made real progress this week. that's why we are here today. we have come together on a new amendment that we believe will lower premiums and provide added protections for those getting access to care. this brings us closer to the final agreement we want to achieve. this idea was offered by gary palmer and dave schweikert and has been embraced by a br

it is a claim that's been debunked by the director of the fbi now congressman devin nunes was met but a rowdy crowd of protesters yesterday at an event in fresno. this event here in san mateo with congresswoman jackie speier was much more quiet event. >> sergio, thank you very much. >>> there's anger and disappointment after parents at albany high school learned about a meeting about a racially-fueled instagram meeting was cancelled. was supposed to be for parents who were targeted with the offensive pictures. >> it's definitely a slap in the face. >> these disappointed parents came in hopes of starting a healing process, their kids targets of racial social media posts. >> at this point there's no resolution, that's why we came today. >> a scheduled meeting never happened to talk with parents whose kids were responsible who targeted minority students. the page was removed after being up two months. >> it takes courage to make amends and start healing. today was a day to do that. >> parents got a e-mail from the principal last night, the meeting was cancelled but many showed up hoping

it is a claim that's been debunked by the director of the fbi now congressman devin nunes was met but a rowdy crowd of protesters yesterday at an event in fresno. this event here in san mateo with congresswoman jackie speier was much more quiet event. >> sergio, thank you very much. >>> there's anger and disappointment after parents at albany high school learned about a meeting about a racially-fueled instagram meeting was cancelled. was supposed to be for parents offensive pictures. >> it's definitely a slap in the face. >> theseisappointed parents came in hopes of starting a healing process, their kids targets of racial social media posts. >> at this point there's no resolution, that's why we came today. >> a scheduled meeting never happened to talk with parents whose kids were responsible who targeted minority students. the page was removed after being up two months. >> it takes courage to make amends and start healing. today was a day to do that. >> parents got a e-mail from the principal last night, the meeting was cancelled but many showed up hoping it would still happen. >> the

joy saturday and sunday, hounancy pelosi had tough words for devin nunes. >> let's talk about devin nunes who is leading the house intelligence community at the moment. do you think he has creditability? >> no. i think he not only has lost all credibility, i think he has tarnished the office that he holds. he has brought discredit to something that is a very, very serious position in the congress. >> and joining us now are michael isikoff, chief investigative reporter. he has interviewed devin nunes in the past. david corn and an msn political analyst. and timmak, senior correspondent for the daily beast. tim mak, devin nunes tried to explain away what he did. he did this interview in which he is trying to say that he going to the white house to view those intelligence documents was perfectly normal, despite the fact that he did it in the dead of night. here is devin nunes. >> i held a press conference and said here is what i found. it has nothing to do with russia. and i'm going to go over to the white house now and i'm going to brief the president. so that's not sneaking around. that's

i think devin nunes is trying to run a diversion campaign for the white house. there are two things going on. you have a president who is desperate to try to prove that that tweet he sent about the president wiretapping him was true, and then you have also got this attempt to distract away from the larger issue, which is the russians meddled in our election. they weaponized information that they gave to wikileaks that the trump campaign used throughout that campaign. they -- he would regularly site leaked information during the presidential campaign, and now you have this web of connections with carter page, paul manifort, and betsy devoss's brother. you've got his aides who are under investigation. >> the founder of the company that was -- blackwater, and you have all of these -- you have these connections and you've got an unpopular president in an administration struggling to try to get on the ride side of this, so they throw susan rice out there. people know that among -- on the right she's not that popular. it's kind of red meat for them. it does not prove,

joy saturday and sunday, nancy pelosi had tough words for devin nunes. >> let's talk about devin nunes who is leading the house intelligence community at the moment. do you think he has creditability? >> no. i think he not only has lost all credibility, i think he has tarnished the office that he holds. he has brought discredit to something that is a very, very serious position in the congress. >> and joining us now are michael isikoff, chief investigative reporter. he has interviewed devin nunes in the past. david corn and an msnbc political analyst. and tim mak, senior correspondent for the daily beast. tim mak, devin nunes tried to explain away what he did. he did this interview in which he is trying to say that he going to the white house to view those intelligence documents was perfectly normal, despite the fact that he did it in the dead of night. here is devin nunes. >> i held a press conference and said here is what i found. it has nothing to do with russia. and i'm going to go over to the white house now and i'm going to brief the president. so that's not sneaking around. that

we did track down devin nunes. he is here in the capitol. he was in the cloak room. he was going into a meeting in the leaders office. leader mccarthy. he is in there now, we believe, at this point. he refused to comment at this point beyond that statement that he put out earlier today. he would not tell me -- i asked if he believed that he was in legal jeopardize because he ma have broke tennessn the laws ar providing classified informion. he wouldn't say. he asked me how i was doing. they're heading out on easter recess, so tempted levity if you see that video later. that's what's going on.

house intel committee chair devin nunes steps aside from the matter involving russia. that critical probe go from here? also, america marks 100 years since the u.s. declared war on germany and joined european allies in the first world war and today is a day of remembrance in so many ways and the war to end all wars. >> you're looking live at the senate floor as debate is underway over supreme court nominee neil gorsuch. they're addressing the nuclear options. there's four democrats who said they would not go with the nuclear option to take the vote threshold from 60 to 51. republicans said they're left with no choice. one of the democrats against that move of filibustering the judge is senator joe manchin he said i'm deeply disappointed that later today many senators plan to vote for the nuclear option taking another step towards destroying the senate. as i said when i voted against the democrats nuclear option i believe the filibuster is vital to protecting the views and the coffee cooling saucer. today it looks like senate precedent will change so it will now take 51

and so now, freeze tag, now is devin nunes's time to be a pillar of salt. the day after the comey hearing, devin nunes apparently decides to pull the rip cord, eject, eject, igd to get out of this thing. famously he pulls this stunt where he goes to the white house, meets with one of his former staffers who's working there now as well as a michael flynn protege who the white house insisted on keeping. he meets with those guys and they provide him with documents maybe. what was clear to everybody at the time was that devin nunes was behaving strangely, that he was explaining things in a way that didn't make sense, that he was clearing trying to create a smoke screen, it was cartoonishly obvious that he was trying to do. first of all, inexmilk blirks despite fact it had no connection to that at all, the first thing is that the sally yates hearing got canceled. smoke screen, it was cartoonishly obvious that he was trying to do. first of all, inexmilk blirks despite fact it had no connection to that at all, the first thing is that the sally yates hearing got ca

the speaker: devin nunes stepped aside from the russia investigation into the ties meddling. do you have faith that he didn't do anything wrong? the speaker: i put a statement. let me tell you what my statement is. devin nunes has earned my trust for his integrity and dedication to the critical work that the intelligence committee. he continues to have that trust and he is eager to demonstrate that he has followed all proper guidelines and laws. it is clear this process would be a dillings tracks to the investigation into russian interference. chairman nunes has offered toll step aside on this particular probe and i support. representative conaway will lead this investigation with respect to house republicans on the intelligence committee. he will follow the facts wherever they may lead. i don't think that's the case. chairman nunes wants to make sure this is not a distraction to an important investigation. and wants to clear himself without any kinds of distractions. reporter: given the fact that you say you have your support, reiterated your trust in him but it has been a d

meanwhile on the house side of capitol hill, congressman devin nunes, this breaking today, chairman of the intelligence committee stepping aside from the investigation into russian meddling during the election. >> jon: all this is president trump repairs to meet with china's president preside. we have oxime coverage and mar-a-lago. >> first on the house side, three republican lawmakers are stepping up to fill the leadership vacuum left by devin nunes as part sure. those three are congress and mike conaway, congressman trey gowdy, and congressman tom rooney who are all going to work together to guide the investigation into russian meddling in the 2016 election. we caught gaudi getting on the elevators this morning. all he would say was have a nice weekend. the reason nunez said he is stepping down is "several left-wing activist groups outside have filed against me." the office of congressional ethics now says in a statement that the charges against nunes are of the improper handling of classified information. house speaker paul ryan came to the microphones to say that the investigation

and instead we're talking about the prosecution and devin nunes. they believe that they are weakened as a result of this president. and i think they are facing grave threats in the midterm. if the president is fighting with the right of the republican party and fighting with the left of the republican party, their base is going to be dispirited in 2018. they're going to have to press turnout. i think democrats have the opportunity to pick up a majority of the self-inflicted wounds by the trump administration. >> congressman, you wrote an op-ed and said he should pick up the phone and call nancy pelosi if he wants to get things done. when you say something like that, it makes me ask, would she really work with him? i mean, how open is she? >> it depends on what it is. i chaired the democratic congressional committee for four years and was in the room when paul ryan would call or john boehner and say on critical issues, necessary to advance the functioning of the country, like not shutting down the government, or funding homeland security, or authori

this was devin nunes. we were again chasing him out of the capitol here. he got into a car and drove away heading him back to his home state of california for this two-week recess that is just starting. what we know is that the house ethics committee had decided to investigate whether or not nunes disclosed classified information over the course of the press conference and public statements he's been making for the last few weeks over this investigation into russian mettle ime meddling. it's a bipartisan committee. this is not a referral from the office of congressional ethics. we see that not infrequently. this is ethics committee which requires at least one republican would have had to say they think this needs to be investigated. nunes met with house speaker paul ryan last night, we know. it was at that meeting that they talked through the options and they're saying devin nunes decided it was best to recuse himself from the russian m meddling investigation. he's not going to step down as chairman of the committee. they're having the next in line republi

i agree with kim on this issue with devin nunes.g about leaks to devin nunes. heavies the -- he's the head of house intelligence committee. maybe he made procedural mistakes. look, there's an effort to discredit him, getting to recuse himself. loretta lynch did not recuse herself after she met with clinton on a much more serious matter involving her. this is an effort not to find out what devin nunes says. looks, he's the only one in all of this who has been very specific. he's read reports, he has seen names, he actually hasn't gone too far. he doesn't even know whether this was incidentally collected, you know, he just knows -- he wants to find out was it collected and he's also said it's not related to russia or criminal investigation. these are questions and the storm is designed not to answer the questions and with general flynn we have, he's seeking immunity, the one man felony committed against and everyone assuming he's guilty when we have evidence the other direction. it's just crazy. paul: briefly, joe, should former gener

devin nunes continues to be wounded by all of this.ntinues to be someone who can't come forth with his own story or won't come forth with it and he looks compromised in this. and i think despite his agreement now with schiff that they're going to proceed, that they're going to call the witnesses they want to do in this committee and get the investigation about russian meddling in the u.s. election back on a track, right now, there's a lot of tension between these two and a lot of doubt in devin nunes's credible. >> is there any -- >> look, i don't want to characterize a hearing just because of what devin nunes has done that it will now all be done. he's now in a deficit, not only with adam schiff and the democratic members of that committee, but with his own republican -- he basically shafted everybody on the committee in what he did. he disrespected all the members of that committee with whom he had no communication about what he was about to do. and as i've said before, what he did was really along the lines, you know, you may recall

ruth. >> we've been talking a lot about devin nunes. he was not the original choice of then house speaker john boehner to be the chairman of the intelligence committee. it was another member of that committee, mike conaway, who boehner went for. nunes was not happy about that, lobbied the speaker, got the job. some people -- >> development that was. ned? i love this guy yoho who said his job is to work for the president. >> trump's going to have to make a decision, outsider/insider, it was his outsider instincts that got him to the white house. he's got to trust his instincts. i think he's going to make a decision at some point there's going to be a changeup with the white house staff sometime in the summer. i'm not sure if sean spicer and rice make it. >> how does he get anything done with his attitude? how do you get 216 votes in the house? how do you pass anything? >> i think you're going to bring the freedom caucus guys back to the table. i feel pretty positive you're going to get something done and you go on to tax reform. >> you c

devin nunes himself saying trump tower wasn't wiretapped. you have trump saying susan rice broke the law. of course i was wooiretapped. you have a lot of people who are not partisans, necessarily. some are democrat. some are not. saying this is not accurate. that scale doesn't balance out at the moment. sorry. >> let's look at a different example of when somebody says something wrong and owns it. sean spicer said something wrong comparing hitler and the holocaust. here is what he said. >> you had a, you know, someone as despicable as hitler who didn't sink to using chemical weapons. >> frankly, i mistakenly used an inappropriate and insensitive reference to the holocaust. i apologize for that. >> this is very hurtful let alone during passover that this came up. chris, is this just about a screw up or blunder as he called it during the interview with wolf or a pattern of not getting it? remember trump jr. saying if they did this to the other side, the gas chambers would be fired up. that innocensensitivitnsensitiv. spicer called them holocaus

devin nunes has been digging in.uestions about whether or not this investigation could have moved forward in a credible manner given his decision to brief the president of the united states in about surveillance information that he said showed a collection of trump officials during the time of the presidential transition now briefing the democrats before then but also by canceling a public hearing that was supposed to take place. the democrats wanted that public hearing to take place. we have heard from a number of people that presumably would have raised concerns about any of these contacts that occurred between russian officials and the trump campaign. but a big shift here and a sign that perhaps this investigation may be able to get back on track after democrats have been calling for nunes to step aside. notable to say also, nunes had been tired of answering questions about all of this is last couple of days i have been asking him a number of questions. not answering any of those questions, clearly tired of the ac

i'm devin fehely. >> and i'm juliet ross -- julie ross. right now, we're in the 60s for oakland and san francisco. mid-60s for concord. what a beautiful view for the golden gate. plenty of nine to start -- sunshine to start off your morning. we will start off in the 60s, warming up into the low 80s by this afternoon 70s by about midday today. and cooling back to 70 as we approach sunset this evening. overall, perfect weather. my dad always brags about the perfect weather in san jose. today is one of those days. this is for you, dad. temperatures climb, though, this weekend, staying above average through the weekend. and then warm next week. if you think 80s is warm, we have some 90s on the horizon. we'll talk about when and where coming up. in the meantime, devin, back to you. >>> security was high in modesto, following a speech by conservative ann coulter. she had canceled after a highly- publicized free speech showdown. melissa caen has exclusive video from inside the event. >> has shown how radical the universities are. >> reporter: in

the president played no role whether devin was removed around.ces are a good thing in an administration. it happened in reagan. it happened in clinton. it happened in w. bush, it happened in herbert walker bush. this is a pass of it thing. the country has diverse voices throughout all corners of america so it's a good thing. whether bannon was pushed aside, that's nonsense. last night he was in the national security briefing as well last night. he's going to continue to play an active role in this administration until the president says he wants to move in a different direction. if the president didn't want him in that security council he wouldn't have been in the meeting last nice. diverse voices are good for the administration. >> i don't know that white nationalism is an example of diverse voices. that's not something that i think is just we should allow that in the argument, just for debate sake. i think it's important he's stepping aside because now we actually can have perhaps hopefully a bipartisan and transparent investigation into what h

so if devin nunes wants to take what he saw to the president, he can. but by the way, we'll show it to you, adam. and adam came and looked at it. now we ought to ask schiff what did you see in those documents? were you surprised by what you saw? are you troubled by what you saw. >> whether something is right or wrong or regardless of his intention, what about just the optics of it? and then i think a lot of people are concerned because it seemed like he walked back on his claim that the president was monitored. obviously if people smell suspicion -- >> the president was not wiretapped. the president was not wiretapped and we ought to be very clear about that. the russia investigation has three silos. what did russia do to us, that's the most important silo. what members of the trump circle were wrongfully associated with russia, and that's focused on manafort and, as we saw in the last hour, maybe roger stone, maybe michael flynn, maybe some others. then we have to ask what the obama people did with information that ought to be close. did they spray it

while we wait we're following tonight's breaking news on capitol, house chairman devin nunes no longerg and he stepped aside, he is under investigation himself. he did a huge 180 and until today he was unbending in front of accusation of bias. here's what he said last week. >> reporter: are you going to stay as chairman and run this investigation? >> why would i not? you guys need to ask them why these things are being said. >> reporter: they said it cannot run with you as chairman. >> you have to talk to them. that sounds like their problem. my colleagues are happy with the investigation and we will continue. >> they will continue without chairman nunes. kirsten, do you think this is temporary? he says he ae's temporarily st p stepping down. >> i don't know but republicans says that good idea and say they support and trust him and it's a good idea because it's a skrakz, the ethics investigation created a distraction, i suggest, if he was cleared by the ethics committee he could come back but he already made it such a circus, it makes sense. >> he met with speaker ryan the night before

there are so many questions about faith in devin nunes, that the balance will shift to the senate. the big question is whether any of that partisanship will affect the senate side? if it does, those calls from democrats and even some republicans may join in for a special -- for an independent commission, and that is kind of where we're headed. >> molly for the folks confused about the immunity issue, i want to ask you, for flynn and the immunity issue, is this really a cya moment because of perjury issues moving forward and testifying, or actually the bigger hook of being able to produce information that would lead to someone else. why is there a drawback from the senate intel committee and others not willing to even play with the immunity card right now. >> think about it. the big fish that flynn would ultimately hand to the intelligence committees and fbi would be president trump. there's not much of a bigger fish than president trump. it's unlikely he would do that. unless he did do something, that's just unclear. i don't know if that involving this big story to tell. the other

and intelligence committee chairman devin nunes under pressure to rescues himself because of that trip to the white house that is finally sidelined. sidelining himself from the russia investigation after the bipartisan house ethics committee opened an investigation as to whether or not new nest mishandled information he got from the white house. ed markey is just off of the floor as there has been a series of votes. tell us the state of it right n now. >> without question, every senator knows that right now they're part of a historic moment. there is now an effortcr that h gun by senator mcconnell and the republicans to change the rules a 60 vote margin in order to confirm a 60 vote to a just majority. right now that is what thert senate is in the process of debating. and ultimately, unfortunately, the republicans do have the votes in order to change these rules in a way that is going to profoundly change our institution. >> now, chuck schumer, the democratic leader on the floor speaking right now as this gets under way. is it worth it to risk what can go back against you if you ever r

>> yes. >> as you mentioned, adam schiff and devin nunes have both seen it. we have not seen it yet so -- >> did they brief you on it? >> no we have not been briefed on it. >> you anticipate in the coming days you'll see the exact same information? >> yeah, i expect that we'll see it very soon. i think we absolutely should see it before the recess, the two-week recess that we're going to take at the end of this week. >> congressman, more to discuss. we're getting more information. let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. your path to retirement may not always be clear. but at t. rowe price, we can help guide your retirement savings. so wherever your retirement journey takes you, we can help you reach your goals. call us or your advisor t. rowe price. invest with confidence. ♪ ♪ wanna get away? now you can with southwest fares as low as 59 dollars one-way. yes to low fares with nothing to hide. that's transfarency. >>> we're talking with congressman joaquin castro. congressman, stand by. we're getting news and i want you to react to it. after an embar

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now that devin nunes is stepping aside.nes not answering any questions as he bolted out of the capital and left and got on a plane for the house recess. >> the fact that the ethics committee is even investigating a chairman of the house intelligence committee on potentially disclosing classified information, that is in and of itself pretty unusual. manu, thanks very much for that. now to the other show down we're seeing. the show down over the knneil gorsuch u.s. supreme court nomination. republicans followed through on the threat to invoke the so-called nuclear option. that means they only needed a simple majority of 51 votes instead of 60 to end the filibuster. let's bring in our political director and our chief political analyst gloria borger. this is historic. >> it is historic. it means -- let's talk about the short term. it means that in terms of future supreme court nominations, there is no going back. and, you know, this means that what we are used to in terms of bipartisan agreements on things as prpt important as

devin nunes, adam schiff, president trump, michael flynn.here are continue to be little bread crumbs being dropped on this trail. >> yeah. there is actually news happening. we are not discussing nothing. there are huge elements of it not -- that are just unknown at this point. we don't know what nunes learned. we don't know what congressman schiff learned today. we just don't know what evidence president trump might have had. we don't know so much but, yet, we do know that there are these wild accusations and we need to get to the bottom of it. >> sadly, i think you've seen the process played out from the house intelligence committee with so much political theater and drama around it. so you have congressman schiff going on msnbc basically saying there is circumstantial evidence that there is colluding between the trump campaign and russia without even knowing what the findings are and then you have obviously the incident can congressman nunes heading to the white house. now, in that case alone, in talking with individuals within the house i

in this, devin nunes has been vindicated, he said initially there was nothing russian involved. now members of the committee have looked at material, transcripts that by the way, to some appear to be reverse targeting, that is they went after people so they could incident allealy pick up a person on trump's transition team. >> this makes no sense, this is illogical, this is a sign of weakness, a sign of you know, unilateral surrender befo the first shot is fired, that sends a very bad message. this is in line with attorney general sessions who never should have recused himself. in both case they should say, your idea maybe if you make up enough letters and complaint we'll all roll over and play dead. lou: we're told that the white house was not given any kind of notice or heads up alert that nunes was about to do this. he had talked to speaker ryan, who said he does not believe that nunes has done anything wrong. this is from the intrepid speaker of the house. he does not believe that nunes did anything is wrong, but fully supports his decision. what do you make of that? >> this

it led to devin nunes having to step down. you know, we spent weeks talking about it. so from as a purely political matter, this was quite an effective diversionary tactic by the trump white house with the cooperation of devin nunes. it didn't advance the ball on the core investigation of the russian interference in the election. but if the goal of the white house is to keep us off that ball, i think they, you know, played it. it served their purposes. >> ned, the diversionary tactics do not serve the white house or the president well in terms of the public's view of him. we have a new poll saying 36% now, 36% say that donald trump is honest and trustworthy. and in february, before all of this stuff started, 42% said he was honest and trustworthy. so whatever he has been up to in the -- over the last month or more has only taken that honest and trustworthy number down. and that would include accusing president obama of having committed that crime of wiretapping. >> well, that's right. and look, those numbers are important in a couple of different regards. one of course

just last month devin nunes was alarming about this, as was president trump.e a listen. >> what i have read bothers me. i think it should bother the president himself and his team. because i think some of it seems to be inappropriate. >> it's such a big story. and i'm sure it will continue forward. what they did is horrible. >> reporter: one of the things president trump said is he believes susan rice, a former obama national security adviser, broke the law by her request to understand which individuals were having these communications with foreign officials. but the sources we talked to on both sides of the aisle have yet to see the information, wolf, that president trump is talking about. they have seen the information devin nunes saw and it does not jut back up what president trump has seen so far. the question is what has president trump referred to. what evidence is he looking at? that's something he has not disclosed and neither has the white house. >> you're also following new report on the former trump campaign adviser carter page. what can you tell us

> breaking news tonight from the white house, house speaker schiff -- embattled committee chairman devin nunes says he saw. what are you reporting on? >> reporter: anderson schiff spent about three hours on the white house complex, after viewing these documents that the white house offered off. and afterwards he did confirm that the documents he saw today, the information he viewed today was the same information that devin nunes reviewed himself over a week ago. he would not speak about the n contempco contents of that information, he really blasted the white house saying, quote, nothing i could see today warranted a departure from the normal review proceed jaguars and these materials should now be shared with membership of both committees. so schiff there making it perfectly clear is that he's unhappy with the way the white house has handled this, unhappy with the fact that nunes saw these documents a week ago and saying the white house should have shared the information with the full committees in the first place. >> and how the house intelligence committee chairman nunes responding to

i don't really trust anything devin nunes says.hink in terms of somebody, he's lost a lot of credibility. >> melissa: when did he lie on camera? >> said none of the information he got came from the white house. he said that on camera multiple times. that's prove ton be not true. right? i think the point is that we have these mechanisms in place to look at all this. i assume this will be folded into though investigations in the coming month. >> can i just say we don't know the information that devin nunes got until he explained it to the american people. that's the problem with the reporting on this whole series of topics. is that the american people are going to learn the details. then they're going to make a decision. they're going to have to decide whether the trump campaign did anything inappropriate which there is no credible information. and they're going to have to decide whether the benjamin netanyahu -- obama administration was playing politics. >> melissa: we don't know. there are so many questions we don't know the answer