emma nottingham as a lecturer of law and she joins me now. thejudge in summing up the case said it was with the heaviest of hearts but with complete conviction, clearly far as the judge was concerned and as far as the doctor is great 0rmond street are concerned, the of life of baby charlie was frankly going to be made even worse if his life was prolonged in order to try to have this experimental treatment in america. yes, that was part of what made this so difficult for everyone involved. really if charlie was going to be sent over to america, how much benefit that would bring him. against the invasiveness of actually putting him on a plane and sending him all the way over to america. so the argument from the doctors wear that it was not in his best interest for that to happen and again the legal team that were working with thejudge on this legal team that were working with the judge on this and the decision of thejudge again the judge on this and the decision of the judge again is focused on what his best interests are or at least what they

let me bring emma nottingham in. charlie gard‘s pa rents emma nottingham in.udge earth does a judge make this decision. that whatjudge has earth does a judge make this decision. that what judge has to do a really, really difficultjob here. so what he has got to do is really try and remove himself from any of the emotive angles of the case and look at all of the circumstances that are before him. so he will look at the arguments that are being made both by the medical professionals and by charlie's parents and he will then have to weigh up what he thinks is in charlie's best interests which is in charlie's best interests which is really, really difficult to do because there is an element of subjectivity with that. what is in one child's best interests is not necessarily going to be the same as what would be in another child's best interests. so the judge is going to have to make that decision because the doctors and the parents have not been able to come to an agreement here. if thejudge‘s decision agreement here. if the judge‘s decision goes against charlie‘s

emma nottingham is a member of the institute of medical ethics and a lecturer in child law at the universityave to weigh in all of that emotion with medical facts. it is a really difficult decision. absolutely. he has to weigh up all of the evidence in front of him and look at the arguments for all of the parties involved. charlie's parents, any experts that they would have spoken to. and he has to take a really objective approach and he has said ina really objective approach and he has said in a press summaryjust yesterday that he has had to really focus on applying the law and that is looking at best interests. silly as to assume the position of charlie and look at what's in the best interests of this child in this particular circumstance is the is such a difficult case for everybody involved. i suppose the question is, how does it get to this, that these pa rents a re how does it get to this, that these parents are in the high court trying to fight this sort of battle? it's really because they weren't able to reach an agreement with the medical professionals. the medical professionals. th