ed joins us live from houma, louisiana. what you found, ed. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. you know that divide between climate change advocates and skeptics is really deep in louisiana. it is really an interesting place to examine the issue. perhaps in no other place in the country has the effects of climate change are so visible. you find so many skeptics looking out in the ocean. for more than 30 years, jeff poe guided fishing trips and chasing speckled trout and other fish in the waters in lake charles, louisiana. >> you consider yourself an environmentalist? >> for sure. without a doubt. that's just my thing with the climate change. i just don't know there is anything we can do about it. >> reporter: you are traveling the waters because according to a study from yale university, this part of southern louisiana has one of the highest concentrations of climate change deniers and skeptics in the country. >> speckled trout. i'm not a denier. i won't put it that way. i'm skeptical as to how much control we have. >> repo

these satellite images, and from the mid 1980s to now, you can see a subtle yet study change around houmaping swallowing up land. >> it's like a cancer. i watch it every year. it keeps moving farther and farther and farther every year. >> reporter: eventually everyone will have to retreat? >> yeah. >> reporter: one of the first signs that things aren't quite rite is when you come across trees simply withering away. they depend on fresh water, but so much saltwater has pushed north, that these trees are simply withering away. leaves and limbs have fallen off. eventually they'll injure crumble into the marsh. spots like this around here are often called a ghost forest. after all this, you would thick charlie hammond and others would be on the climate change bandwagon. there's a lot of people who believe that sea level rising is contributing to what you're sigh, but you don't buy that? >> i don't buy that. >> reporter: they minimize the impact of climate change and say other factors are in play, like the impact from the mississippi river, and marsh ladd is fally sinking called subsidens. but

to end early, he called at the end of the night to a consolation call, if you will, where her aide, houma abedin hands her the phone and said the president is on the phone. she winss and feeling the pain and the weight of the call ahead of her and she picks up the phone and says i'm sorry, mr. president. >> she felt she let him down. >> she let him down, let the party down, herself down, her supporters down. this is like a crushing, crushing moment. all these people filling the center who thought she was going to finally do this and they left in floods early that night. i was there. this -- they felt shattered. and that's kind of why we named the book this "shattered" because that explains everything. >> we know that the clinton campaign was a campaign that was driven by numbers. a lot of data. did the numbers or faulty interpretation of the numbers doom the campaign? >> it was a factor we found. there were people like president clinton who kind of had a better gut check. he was kind of feeling a different way and kept pushing back in various ways saying i'm not feeling the way the data a

their friends, don't forget, you know, ivanka -- ivanka is friends with chelsea clinton, friends with houmawho he's friends with, they've made sure to get to donald trump through his family. >> i'm not sure they're on the phone with them anymore. we're out of time but we could keep this going. >> this is fascinating. >> are you upset they're skiing for a second time? are you upset that jared and ivanka are skiing? >> no. i'm very happy. they can keep skiing for a long time as far as i'm concerned. i hope they enjoy themselves. >> that tells you all you need to know. great conversation. up next, breaking the silence, the daughter of the bruised and bloodied man dragged off that united airlines flight to make room for extra crew members, we hear from her for the first time. >> we were horrified and shocked and sickened to learn what had happened to him and to see what had happened to him. >> does congress need to get involved? that's after the break. we're coming to you live from the nation's capital. >>> it's time for the "your business" entrepreneurs of the week. seeing double. these two an