janet tobias? guest: in oakland, they did a pilot program with a private donor, who offered small children vaccines in the school. i think we all should work hard to make it as easily accessible as possible. guest: when i was a child in the polio vaccine -- and the polio vaccine was made, i got vaccinated in my school. host: charles from virginia, independent. good morning. caller: good morning, steve. i'm listening, and i hear a lot about these vaccines and the wonderful drugs that they are putting out on the market, and medically speaking, i think that's fantastic. but for some reason, there is the business end of this. high money. these people that are putting these medicines out, and i am 75 years old -- when i get my shot every winter, i can tell you that when i see the price come back from the insurance companies, there is big-time money in this. the money factor on the business end, i think, is kind of spoiling the effect, the medical end. i think there's a mixture of how much money these ph

janet tobias wrote and directed the film we just watched. and dr. anthony fauci is the dr.ous diseases and the author of the book americans at risk. why we're not prepared for disasters and what we can do. dr. sanjay. >> outbreak is usually when you see some sort of eruption of an infection you wouldn't otherwise expect to see. epidemic is when something starts to spread rapidly among the population. pandemic is when it's spreading around the world. endemic is when it becomes intrenched in a particular place. so certain malaria would be an example. something that started in these first stages but now endemic within certain parts of africa. >> in terms of risk, you say you can't prevent outbreaks, you can't prevent the emergence of a new infectious agent but you can prevent how it spreads. >> exactly. and that's the whole point. microbes emerge and reemerge. the critical issue is to prevent an outbreak from becometic an epidemic and then a pandemic. with vaccine development, you can blunt that spread. so people think prevent an outbreak. you're just not going to do that. the

host: janet tobias is the director and producer of the new documentary, "unseen enemy," and friend ofhe network, dr. anthony though fauci. what have you learned in working on this? guest: this is an extraordinary demonstration of the kinds of challenges you have of emerging and r