i raise this now because if you're hbcu, are they using yours or are you being used unwhit gli unwhitinglypart of the government, putting people in jail unnecessarily for years. what is not so good is they're putting money into campaigns across the country of people that have been working an law and order, racial dog whistles, and it's good that they're putting money in there and they should say to stop backing the racist campaigns. >> they can't do that, but aagree. they are cleaning up their image where it shows. >> the only thing i add to that is i don't want it to be misconstrued, the black organizations should stop, and so should the white folk. >> bill keller has a great organization that looks at criminal justice issues. it did a study and it looked at what candidates do. and they are making a big show of meeting in the obama white house working for criminal justice reform, and i guess i feel as a reporter that the public should see the big picture. what personal price have you paid for this? have they are tracking you, chasing you, digging into your life? >> yeah, they have, and i'