for local candidates and mostly goldwater 63, the draft goldwater movement started in fall of 63. my parents were members of it, went to the goldwater convention. walter brennan kissed my mother. anybody remember walter brennan? excellent. >> it is odd to think of walter brennan kissing your mom. kind of an old man. >> he is developing a speech. group of southern california business men go to reagan and his brother neil, and at executive in california. they say to reagan we want to put this on television to help goldwater so they put up the money and it was broadcast on nbc and it was an enormous hit that raised millions of dollars for the goldwater campaign and the republican national committee and goldwater loses in a historic landslide but david broder wrote for the washington post, one ray of sunlight in a dismal campaign was reagan's speech, goldwater's defeat was devastating for the republican party, the republicans are in the minority in the house and the senate and very few statehouses, few governorships and the republican party is functionally dead. it doesn't have a cohe

for local candidates but mostly for goldwater in '63, the draft goldwater movement actually started in the fall of '63. my parents came here to washington, went to the draft goldwater convex. walter -- convention. walter brennan kissed my mother. [laughter] does anybody remember walter brennan? >> sure. >> okay, the real mccoy. excellent. >> it's odd to think of the walter brennan in my mind kissing your mom -- [laughter] kind of an old man. your mo [laughter] >> but so anyway, he's developing this speech, and finally a group of southern, wealthy southern california businessmen go to reagan and his brother neil, because neil was an ad executive in southern california, and they say to reagan we want to put this speech on television to help goldwater. so they put up the money, and it was broadcast on nbc, and it was an enormous hit. raised millions of dollars for the goldwater campaign and the republican national committee. and, of course, goldwater losesi in a historic landslide, but david broder wrote for "the washington post," our old friend, that the ray of sunlight in an otherwise d

goldwater is a states rights guy. he is a believer in freedom. little believer in as government intrusion as possible including any business of the south. have stateshat you going red in the south of the first time, but hardly the last time. 1968, fast-forward. johnson's electoral victory is -- enables him to get major pieces of social legislation -- passed in the wake of 1964 to advance his anti-poverty agenda that he and john f. kennedy did. to pass programs of what he calls "the great society," including the centerpieces of medicare and medicaid, major social programs, health insurance for the elderly and lower income people. a whole host of other anti-poverty programs, job creation programs, and enlargement of the domestic side of the government. ist johnson also oversees the large meant of the military side of the government because of the war in vietnam. he oversees this massive escalation of the conflict. it is ironic because in he comes into office, he is very conflicted about it. this is kennedy's war. this is not something, from the get

what is interesting, goldwater doesn't win very much. he was from the state of arizona , but he takes states that had for solidly blue democratic decades and decades. -- thehe deep south electoral votes of the deep south go for barry goldwater. y? because of civil rights. this was after the civil rights act signed into law by johnson, something the whites of the deep a great betrayal of their state rights and their way of life by the federal government. goldwater is a states rights guy. he is a believer in freedom. he is a believer in as little government intrusion as possible, including in the business of the south. thesee of that, you have states going red in the south for the first time, but hardly the last time. 1968, fast-forward. victorys electoral enables him to get major pieces of social legislation passed in the wake of 1964 to advance his antipoverty agenda that was his and john f. kennedy's, to pass programs of what he called "the great society," occluding the centerpieces of medicare and medicaid, major social programs of hea

after the election, goldwater sues for libel and wins.omething called the goldwater rule emerges in the psychiatric perfection, which is, you don't pronounce on the mental connection of a person you have not examined. >> tucker: [laughs] go to call. >> that goldwater role stays in effect for 50 years until now. and now, you are seeing psychiatrists, psychologists all over the place, talking about donald trump. this is from an article in the new yorker just recently, said, with regard to trump, however, the goldwater role has been broken repeatedly, more than 50,000 mental health professionals have signed a petition stating that trump is "too seriously mentally ill to perform the duties of president." >> tucker: there is something about this president that brings out the worst in his enemies. here's the the fundamental question, though. is not simply a matter of being blinded to trump and hating so trump that you can't cover him fairly, though that is happening. they have suspended judgment on the other side because they just like trump so

one that he had with was barry goldwater who was in some ways opposite. but they have this sort of almost locker room tub of conversation relationship. and at one point kennedy was presiding over the senate. it was late in the evening. was about ready to close down for the night. kennedy apparently had a social engagement planned. barry goldwater was on the senate floor just talking and talking and talking. kennedy was getting impatient. apparently he saw that, kept on talking. finally kennedy calls over a page scrawls a note to the page gives it to goldwater. and goldwater looks down and he sees the note. in the did not take too long to read it. very simple. why are you always such a share -- shit? [laughter] this probably had the effect of to the night, but it's sort of showed the jack killer aspect of jfk. a second dimension of want to talk about with kennedy, a domestic policies and other. i sort of like an it to being a student, do your math homework before you go do literature or social studies and history. it was just something that he knew he had

he, buckley and goldwater opposed the 64 civil rights act. which i think plays a very significant role in getting conservatives, including conservatives who themselves had been activists in the civil rights movement. people like richard john neuhaus, gave the conservative movement a reputation for being if not racist, at least not against racial segregation's. so what accounts for buckley and goldwater refusing to support the civil rights act? >> before we do the civil rights act. remember national review begins in the 1970s. and it is not around in 1954 but it also possibly -- in a very big way. this is not national review's finest hour. there have been many finer hours. outdated finest hour in the last few years. but buckley was operating under many forces. let me explain this. both his parents were southerners. texas and south carolina. the genteel, the southerners who said we can take care of problems thank you very much. we don't believe in integration but we don't believe in violence, we don't believe in exploitation either. and we will

up in a grew republican family and it was only after barry goldwater voted the civil rights act in 1964, in high school, i'm older caller., by the way, i won't id, you know, say i felt like the republican arty turned against african americans, because you had ed brook, senator from massachusetts at that time, you a lot of progressive minded civilicans, as far as the rights front was concerned. the party is very different and democrats are not without fault, either, of but the fact is, i adn't mentioned a party affiliation, i don't think it partisan matter. there are good people in both parties, folks in both parties that i disagree with. important, we start talking about fundamental rights andlike equal shouldn't be talking about party affiliation. various ortunate at times, it didn't start with goldwater, throughout american history we've seen people use race for political racetage or move away from for political advantage, depending one way or the other. aware of this realistically and come together, said, stop the hate, start talking about how we rodney get along, as king said. host:

given his speech on behalf of barry goldwater in 1964. this is probably his largest tv moment three years later after that. theelling him further on national political stage. he was already known on the national media staging and from hollywood, movies, tv, but this really propelled him to the national stage politically. and bobby kennedy, is famous as he already was being attorney general, this was a big nationally and even international stage for him as well. host: could you imagine something like this today? paul: that is a good question. i cannot imagine who would be. maybe somebody on the likes of marco and ted cruz on the republican side. maybe elizabeth warren on the democratic side. even then, it would not be the same thing because of it was cnn, fox, msnbc, c-span, you would not have the concentrated audience that you have today when there is basically only cbs, nbc. host: thank you for being here on c-span3. her, it was good to be thank you. announcer: c-span, where history unfolds daily. in 1970 nine, c-span was created as a pu

doctor, i understand your diagnosis and i'm look at goldwater rule says mental health officials aren't allowed to diagnose public figures they haven't evaluated. you are violating the goldwater rule and you are the one who might have delusions of grandeur, because you think you are going to save america from donald trump and i don't think that adds up. >> i told people i dedicated my life to a hopeless call. i don't think i'm going to remove donald trump. jesse: you are telling everybody he's going to murder the rest of the country if we don't get him out of office it seems terrified and delusional from you. >> we have a duty to warn. if someone is dangerous we violate our confidentiality not to warn. jesse: the hide yeah obsessing -- the media obsessing over trump's first 100 days. what about the democrats first 100 days. "watters world" talks politics at a "star wars" convention. what do you think we should d earning your cash back shouldn't be this complicated. yet some cards limit where you earn bonus cash back to a few places. and then, change those places every few months. enough

the republicans today are no barry goldwater.t their integrity in a blind trust. >> you don't think they're there yet? >> democrats have no political power right now. they need it to force the hand of republicans in congress for any kind of special investigation. i think that republicans have to go further down this road before they start jumping ship. >> i want to hear from jeff lord. >> as you gather, i may desceis here. i think you're in a bubble. let me just hold up -- this is from slate. we all know that democrats all wanted jim comey out of that job. here's the headline. harry reid, fbi chief comey covered up, covered up, russian hacking. he should resign. in other words, democrats were making the case that comey should be fired because he was covering up for the russians. and now they're saying suddenly -- >> what about that? >> what senator reid was saying is that comey was very vocal about the investigation of hillary which cleared her and ended and he attacked her and said nothing about the investigation of trump. i can

you talk about the goldwater ago we saidweeks churches could not lose their tax status. kids don't have to sit there and listen to anyone they don't want to, that's freedom. you read from an article about mr. stone -- exactly. power, itsey have turnabout in terms of the debate over free speech. they have a right for free speech when it's against them. i applaud all the colors that said, can you just sit there and be civil? i understand that sentiment, however it is the kids' day. who invited these people? , and the kids tell it because they are smart. they just graduated from college. thank you so much, have a great day. appreciate all you do at c-span. host: thank you. let's go to ben from phoenix, arizona. independent. we were talking about first amendment rights at colleges. the colleges are not banning people from speaking because of peaceful protests that are giving speeches. they are banning protests because of violence that are being introduced by a third they are being, paid like blackrock. these people are coming in and creating violence to create mayhem. they a

he did not want to seem weak. -- landslide victory over barry goldwater. he did not want to seem weak. there are new tapes coming out. the kennedy libraries are still bringing out new tapes dealing with vietnam. i think it is a story that will evolve. i am curious to see how can burn -- how ken burns deals with it in his vietnam war series. he was in a piece mode at the time. he was meeting with khrushchev privately and asking how we can get global peace. to do a one offer in vietnam he was trying to do this grand -- he had put forward not testing nuclear weapons in the atmosphere. susan: let's talk about russia. we referenced the cuban missile crisis which framed the early part of his presidency and here we are worried about the u.s.-russian relationship again. what can you say about the approach the kennedy administration took towards the russians? stephen: i think what is interesting about the speeches and history, what is interesting about kennedy as the presidency goes on he learns from his mistakes. he starts off as a fervent cold warrior. he comes t

. >> i man independent i was a republican but i grew up in the republican family and only after goldwater voted against the civil rights act and then i said i will say becae like a belted turned against african-americans because weat still have the senator from massachusetts at that time and of a lot of progress if mines and republicans put the party is very different are today and the democrats are not without fault either but i have not even mention of the party affiliations up and told how. that should not matter. there are good people in both parties and their people but i disagree withut if we talk about those fundamental principles of equal rights and justice to talk about party affiliations but it didn't start with richard nixon throughout american history we have seen people use race for political a vantage or move away from race has political the vantage so we need to be aware of this realistically. stop the hate that is common sense how we can all get along as rodney king says. >>host: the democratic line from illinois. >> caller: with their act of violence is seems to be one of

the resurgence of goldwater, emergence of goldwater then of course, everybody thought the party collapsedface of his defeat then of course by 1980, you get reagan. then of course you get the bushes then of course the response to the bushes, you get the tea party emerges. and now from tea party we get trum trump. there seems to be this rightward drift that's really interesting. we can tell this story. what's etch moven more interest the bargain being made by paul ryan, mitch mcconnell and other republicans who are in some ways silencing their voices because they're siding with this thrust. >> that's what's so disappointing now is looking for real republican leadership. >> let's count them. we've got six of us here, seven counting me. we've got ben sasse, we've got john mccain, we've got lindsey graham, marco rubio, at least five days a week. anybody else come to mind? seriously, charlie and katie, jump in. mitt romney. do you guys have anything else? >> nicolle -- >> it's a very, very small group. >> go ahead, katie, do you want to add anyone to the list? i'm at five. >> i just want to say

goldwater tries to make it, and there is a famous ad about a mushroom cloud used to stereotype goldwater as a hawk, going to using nuclear weapons. there is an incidents which people have made a lot of. my sense is looking backwards it wasn't all that important, the gulf of tonkin resolution in the fall of 1964, to get congressional authorization for future american escalation in vietnam. the other two things, by the way, we should not forget. in 1964 and 1965i would submit that lyndon johnson had his eye on one all, which was bringing to an end jim crow segregation in the united states of america. we need to remember it was lyndon johnson in 1964, who on his own within a week after the assassination of president kennedy, he said we will move the civil rights act. with help of hubert humphrey, he gets it done. protests at selma, i was at the end of the march in with thendon johnson, help of midwestern republicans, passes the voting rights act to end segregation forever. he has this thing going on in vietnam. he also had the great society he wanted to build up. so in early 1965, hanoi esc

goldwater will pick up where taft ended. al said all movements start off this way and he wrote a year before i was born calvin coolidge won one of the largest in american history. there was no welfare state, no big army, all that. eight years later franklin roosevelt wins the election. that's what he wrote, take part in this. of course you know they are back and nobody saw when they went down years later that we would be talking about a separate strategy with a much more moderate stands come even liberal. >> let me ask about that. what was the attitude becausek b although nixon was reviled by the west mainly for excessive anti-communism, he was moreys t liberal comes to what was his attitude towards him? >> when nixon passed away, buckley said it's amazing how through all of his battles even though he said what is it about this man and why is it that sohy many of my friends still cling to him and he said back to the case when whittaker chambers and alger hiss, it turns out by the qurightaway that he was guilty,w know this in

he, buckley and goldwater opposed the 64 civil rights act. which i think plays a very significant role in giving conservatives, including conservatives themselves that have been activists and civil rights movement people at richard neuhaus and marianne trebloc gave them a reputation for not being racist, if not against the dismantling of segregation bears are refusing to support the civil rights activist. >> before we do that. remember national review begins in the mid-1950s. and is not around 1954 but also -- in a very big way. and this is not national review's finest hour. there have been many finer hours. i would say it's finest hour was in the last few years. but buckley was operating under many, let me explain this. both his parents or southerners. texas and south carolina. their lineage what i will call the genteel, southerners business and we can take care of our problems thank you very much. we don't believe in integration but we don't believe in violence either. we will take care of our own community. thank you very much. they were v

south korea says the launch quoting here through goldwater on peace efforts. >>> time for us to take a look at the weather. heavy rain and thunderstorms stretching from the gulf coast to the northeast with up to 4 inches of rain expected in some parts. forecasters are warning to expect flash flooding. a funnel cloud touched down near katy, texas, sunday afternoon. tiny one as stormy weather blew through. the national weather service has since confirmed it was a tornado. here's a live look at new york's times square where it's starting to rain as you can see, downpours could get heavy in much of the northeast today. >>> vice president mike pence gave the commencement address at notre dame yesterday but before he started speaking, this happened. >> yeah, dozens of graduates walked out in a silent protest. his subject was on the suppression of free speech on college campuses. and he did not actually comment on that walkout. >>> still ahead right here, curtain call. ringling brothers take its final bow after 146 years. >>> and billy bush breaks his silence about the decade-old tape that

at the same time goldwater was nominated to deliver a direct message to president nixon. goldwater, along with senate republican leader hugh scott, went to the white house, sat directly in front of president nixon's desk, and explained that enough was enough. mr. president, these courageous republicans were, of course, talking about lies, corruption, or instruction of justice and danger to our democratic system of government emanating from the nixon white house. they took our oath of office to protect the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic and certainly above a party or short-term policy gain, they took it seriously. and to their courage, we in history owe them a debt of gratitude. so i ask today, amid a swirling of a deeply troubling mix of lies, nearly 500 in the first 100 days of this new presidency, obfuscation, withholding of information, attempts to interfere with federal investigations regarding possible collusion with a foreign adversary, thinly veiled threats against those involved in such investigations by our current president, where are the

together they petitioned congress and with the help of the national organization for women and barry goldwater, they got this legislation through congress. to conclude, and she probably i deservee ceremony my victory medal and i'm so glad i'm getting it. i deserve it not only for fighting in world war i but for fighting the u.s. army and winning. when i thought about writing this book, this is my seventh book, i thought i would be writing about the past and i thought this was interesting, i have never written a book about women and perhaps now is the time. i thought it was about the past and then i discovered i was writing about the present because in 2016 during a , hillaryial race clinton could have been the first woman president, but that moment in history did not happen. 2016 was happened in it that the army decided women who served in world war ii could no longer be buried at arlington. these are the same women they got on the world war i bill in congress. the world war ii women, there were still a couple left and last year the family of one wonder to bury her at arlington and they said t

the other includes barry goldwater. >> watch the entire program on former kentucky senator wendell ford this evening at 5:00 p.m. eastern on c-span 3. c-span -- where history unfolds daily. in 1979, c-span was created as a public service by america's cable television companies and is brought to you today by your cable or satellite provider. join us tuesday morning as we head to the heart of appalachia's coal country or -- at awashington journal" coal plant to talk about coal. our guest include the president of murray energy corporation. representative bill johnson. vivienne stockman. and nick mullins. watch live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. julia: we are standing in front of the turtle bay exploration park and museum in redding, california. come inside as we look at an event -- exhibit that shares the agricultural history of the region. i think it is really important for us to remember that agriculture is one of the backbones of california. even in far northern california, where it is mountainous and the trained does not really lend itself to a lot of big ag. it does lend itself to p

the other is george smathers and jerry goldwater. a lot of people may not realize c is it works at the national level to elect democrats to u.s. senate. similarly, the national republican senatorial committee works to elect republicans to the u.s. senate. the house has two party campaign committees of its own that perform the same function. these committees play an important role in which party ain't taints control of the senate or house. cheering a party campaign committee can help lawmakers move up the leadership letter here that was the case for wendell. during his six years, he racked chairs. he chaired the senate rules committee from 1986 to 1994. the body that considers changes to the way the senate government health. i net -- governs in itself. by 1988 ford gained stature to run for party whip. he unsuccessfully challenged the incumbent from california. in 1990, cranston was in poor health and embroiled in controversy over the savings and loan scandal and decided not to run for whip ford. through his hat in the ring. in congre

barry goldwater was the republican presidential nominee before richard nixon. the president who fired cox. the aba held an emergency meeting to condemn the action. aflcio condemned it and called for impeachment. not saying we're anywhere near that today, but i'm saying president trump has i think absorbed the lesson that republicans and congress are willing to accept almost any infringement on traditional checks and pbalances because thy view them on the political project with them. they want to decide the legislation. he has signalled his direction he will fire sally yates and the district attorney. people investigating people in his orbit. the real question is is there push back? without it, you can bet this is not the last time we have seen some of the traditional boundaries. >> jason, what would be push back? we hear talk of special prosecutor. first of all, we don't know what there is to prosecute. there is not a criminal investigation going on to harness. there doesn't seem to be bipartisan approval. you have blumenthal saying this may be grounds for impe

the others are democrat george smathers and republican barry goldwater. a lot of people may not realize what the dscc is. it's a nongovernmental political organization that works at the national level that helps elect democrats of the u.s. senate. the national republican senatorial committee works to elect republicans to the u.s. senate. the house has two party campaign committees of its own that perform the same function. play anmmittees important role in which party retains control of the senate or the house. chairing the party campaign committee can also help lawmakers move up the leadership ladder. that certainly was the case for wendell. during his six years as chairman, ford wracked up chips with democratic colleagues. he chairedis tender, the senate rules committee from 1986-19 94, the body that considers changes to the way the senate governs itself. by 1988, ford had gained sufficient stature to run for party whip. that year he successfully, unsuccessfully challenge the incumbent alan cranston of california. was in1990, cranston poor health, mired

barry goldwater took a walk in 1974 and changed the course of history. clearly, i'm a lone voice in this regard, but i think that's where we're going. >> bott was something people weren't paying attention to. it started the whole asia ben tigers issue. right now, this is top of the newspaper every day, more or less. it's not something that's hidden in the weeds. it's right after how the market back until long-term cap a tall crushed aand the fed intervened. >> we can do analogs all day. >> if you don't think 2400 is a significant number the s&p 500, i just call attention to the right bottom part of the screen. it's gotten there, but seems to be ab rehen sieve. let's bring in two more voices. joe, john, fwojoining us live f san francisco. they are at the apex conference. joey, i'll go to you first. this line in the sand and where you think we can go from here, what could get us there. >> i'm little amazing. let's talk about the resiliency in the marketplace. i, amongst other, short-term money, have tried to downside. i tried it last week. the moment of op

together, they petitioned congress, and with the help of the national organization of women and barry goldwaterwho are usually not in the same sentence, they got this legislation through congress. to conclude, she said at the ceremony which i could show you next, she said, i deserve my victory medal. i deserve it not just for serving in world war i, but for fighting the army for 60 years and winning. when i thought about writing this book -- it is my seventh book. i thought i would be writing about the past. i thought, this is interesting, i have never written a book about women. as i said, i thought it was about the past. then i discovered i was actually writing about the present. 2016 during a presidential race that could have elected the first woman president. she was not elected. that moment in history did not happen. what also happened in 2016 is womenhe army decided serving in world war ii could no longer be buried in arlington. two groups of women had not been honored. the women from world war i are all gone. but world war ii, there are still a couple left. the family of one wanted to bu

nixon woke up and real listed in 64 -- even though goldwater was wiped out, this was a rising force andcentrist republicans, it was a dominant force in the republican party. once we get the nomination, we have to get different folks. eventually in 72, he brought them in. all of what became the reagan democrats ten years later. >> neil: i'm wondering, in working with nixon, working in this distrust to the media, who came up with the silent majority? >> it was my phrase. i got it. i came back from the chicago democratic convention -- >> neil: spiro agnew espoused it. >> but next used it in his november 3 speech. we saw the riot in the street and i said when you go to chicago, reach out to the silent majority out there, the folks not in the streets and the rest of it. the phrase stuck with him. he carried illinois that year. in the silent majority was the great november 3 speech urging the folks to stand with him on vietnam. >> neil: a lot of people say there could be a powerful lesson here for donald trump, that also capturing the silent majority out there and angry. >> a couple things. h

barry goldwater, people they won't know, all these great folks and then in the house, those that served on world war ii that were amazing people, conservative democrats that i know and loved. hyou remember the secretary of defense, he was a brilliant thinker. and it is the time when republicans and democrats there was no difference because we were all out to defeat accompanists. then i did the budget and i understood the pentagon reform and the whole thing. it was kind of an iconoclast because i was one of the people that found the hammers and screwdrivers and said we should reform the pentagon likely reform the welfare system. then i worked with a very liberal democrat to reduce the procurement of the bomber which i thought we didn't really need in the middle of a nuclear war and his job was to fly in the soviet union and drop into the war. we don't need as many of the planes to do that so i wanted to build a standoff weapons and the limited production and that carried over to my work on the budget committee. there was an incident i wanted to come and control the growth of pentagon spe

barry goldwater and three pillars of the republican party went to the white house and richard nixon andaid we can't support you. he announced the resignation the next day. when i visited paul in the white house. he said as long as the democrats are with us and richard gephardt, the democratic leader in the house at the time was with us, we'll be fine. democrats stuck with clinton. the political question is will the republicans stay with trump? so far they have. we're in the middle of it. >> there is nothing dire. those were crisis points where it was existential. this is about checking in more and demanding better and interfacing with the white house and calling out. it is not about abandoning the president. i don't think anybody is expecting the republicans to run away from trump and say he should resign. it is about get in the game and own the accountability. be the check and balance you are supposed to be. >> there are levels. you have to figure out did he threaten the fbi director? did he tamper the investigation and say call off the flynn investigation. you have to deal with all of

there used to be a couple of people, barry goldwater, like that's a really nice idea but they can't affordthat. there's no way we can afford that. i hundred 10% we still wouldn't be able to afford it. there were some of those characters like their whole purpose was to say wow, stop that already, it was not at least be concerned that made the military-industrial complex beach. i want to ask you for ten about a number of people in the book that are in different roles. you've written about lindsey graham whose strategy was to have been tricked into thinking they were voting for america's first transgender president. [laughter] >> actually, that didn't work. >> support for the candidacy was limited to lindsey graham. so i wanted to ask you now you've taken on a different role as a big voice. >> much better. the guy that i appreciate is john mccain. i flew out on a plane. on the big stick as they call it a couple hundred miles and virgin and the seas were so high about 60 feet or something along the water line and spray was coming over that is how big they were. only a crazy person would do thi

and i can't there won't be some others who will rise as barry goldwater and others did during watergated come out of this looking good because they went to conscious and principles over partisanship and loyalty. >> the top of their ticket goes into the weekend at 38% pop layer. charlie sykes, jonathan alter, gentlemen, our thanks for appearing with us. >>> coming up after thebreak on the week len rehessinger is invited to the oval office, they might be looking for micro phones in the oval office. back with more after this. if you want to stay on top of your health, one simple thing to do -- is take the pledge to go and get screened for the cancers that might affect you. so stand up to cancer and take the pledge at getscreenednow.org it only takes a minute to take care of yourself, and nothing rhymes with "org"... >>> programs regularly scheduled for this time will not be seen today in order that we might bring you the following nbc news special report. watergate, senate hearings. >> romantic titles back then. that was july 16, 1973, very important day in american presidential history, i

barry goldwater, these young people won't know them, gary hart, sam nunn, all these great us in the house, folks that served in world war ii were amazing people, conservative democrats that i loved. and it was the time when republicans and democrats there was no difference because we were all out to defeat the communist and we did. then you had the other side of it when you did the budget. then i understood the pentagon reform and i was kind of an iconoclast because we found the hammers and screwdrivers and wrenches that cost tens of thousands of dollars in the welfare system. you were not supposed to say that, then i worked with ron dallas who was a liberal democrat to reduce the procurement in the middle of a nuclear war and dropped bombs in the middle of a war. i said we don't need many of those planes that do that and so i wanted to build standoff weapons. that was a big fight so we got word reduction to the committee. there was an incident i wanted to come and control the growth of the pentagon spending and i was in a meeting with the leadership when someone accused me of being a tra

political strategy for them, and i can't believe there won't be some others who will rise as barry goldwater and others did during watergate and come out of this looking good because they went to conscience and principles. >> by all accounts. charlie sykes, charlie alter, thanks for appearing with us on a friday night. coming up after another break, on the very week trump invites henry kissinger to the oval office, he finds himself being compared to richard nixon. and now visitors to the oval might be looking for microphones. we're back with more right after this. on september 9, 2010, pg&e learned a tragic lesson we can never forget. this gas pipeline ruptured in san bruno. the explosion and fire killed eight people. pg&e was convicted of six felony charges including five violations of the u.s. pipeline safety act and obstructing an ntsb investigation. pg&e was fined, placed under an outside monitor, given five years of probation, and required to perform 10,000 hours of community service. we are deeply sorry. we failed our customers in san bruno. while an apology alone will never be enough,

after all, it was goldwater, scott and rhodes who took the trip down the white house driveway to tell the old man it was over. but let's not forget howard baker. who are you looking to be profiles in courage, and just how unnormal is everything you've seen in the last 24 hours? >> well, it's unprecedented, brian. shocking, actually. an enormous abuse of power by the president of the united states. any republican member of congress who takes the president his spokes peek's assertions that this occurred because of hillary clinton is either a fool, or they have so lost sight in this tribal politics, their responsibilities to the country, that they have become faithless to their oaths. my old colleague mark salter, the long-time chief of staff to senator john mccain may have hit the nail on the head today when he said "i never thought i'd be saying this in my lifetime, but perhaps we need a democratic congress to protect the national security of the united states in 2018." so for republicans, there are few that give you hope that the country comes first. and of course that list starts wit

after richard nixon fired archibald cox in 1973 you had barry goldwater the immediate predecessor as the republican presidential nominee condemning him. we have a more polarized politics and the republican leadership and rank and file for the most part almost entirely on capitol hill are basically saying we are part of a common enterprise with president trump. most of our voters still support him and therefore they have unwilling to defend the checks and balances that james clapper talked about. i would say there is still political risk in this, though, because if you look at 2018, i think by far the biggest risk to republicans is that those voters who are ambivalent at best about trump will view them as too compliant and not exercising sufficient checks and balances on him, and so this course, which they believe is safe for now, ultimately i think could be riskier if they are seen as not providing meaningful oversight. >> it's easier in watergate, that was a real crime. this was a legislative endowed and created prosecutor. you don't have that here. comey was not popular with democr

whether it was barry goldwater, hugh scott and john rhoads on august 7, 1974, going to the white house and saying you have to go, that kind of patriotism as opposed to partisanship has not been evident at all. >> are you saying necessary today the republicans should go to trump -- >> to resign, no. i'm just saying. but just to say this is wrong and you have to respect the law. i'm not saying he has to resign or be impeached. i'm saying that the propriety of firing comey was so obviously wrong that it seems like it's more than incumbent upon republicans to recognize it. >> and these gop leaders are mostly not on television. they are avoiding interviews. one last question for you, carl. i was rewatching "all the presidents men" with my wife. >> what a great movie. can we discuss it? i'm sorry. >> you have ben bradley's character at the end of the film says to you and bob on the lawn, half the country has never heard of watergate. nobody cares about this. of course for another year or two you keep working on the story. is there something similar happening right now? many americans are tun