concur that we did change the carter after that, what do we make 25 years later of the fact that tom radley called him for the city not being prepared. we can argue that they d deliberately did not punish areas of the city, but what about the fact that the city wasn't ready? for what would happen if these cops were found not guilty. >> one of the machine -- many, you know how much i love tom bradley just as you did, but the fact that you have a mayor of the city, and a police chief that is not even talking. i mean that was really irresponsible leadership, i would have to say, with all due respect. i think that is, so a large extent, contributing towards the failure that they have talked about, of lapd, the chief responding. if there was a level of constructive communication, i would like to think there would have been a different response. he was arrogant. he was racist, no question about that. but because of a combination of the dysfunctional relationship on one hand, and at that time the construction of the charter, you know those two things in my opinion lead toward that regrettable welc