have been much better off of that was the case thanks a lot for this interview or talking to allison gilman is our rate so a former deputy secretary general of nato discussing the alliance's latest pledge to fight terrorism and how the nato russia relationship is likely to shape up in the future that's it for this edition of sophia and call see you next. minute. going to be willing to risk a dream. it turns you know. the mind. it. is getting to the security system and the trouble. to replace it. is. to get. stuck with a suitcase it's a few seconds the crowd is spread out so. this. like. the saudi qatar spot continues with no end in sight and new sanctions on russia dividing nato allies also is the truth about ukraine finally coming to light lastly the west and civil society. let's talk about blackness in the bills of being black. and always well in a big house down at least that's what i've been told but it was simply did we in remains as such because we simply forgot i don't believe. being seen we've allowed them to rearrange their plane it you've told us the sickness of trust in our enemy