caisson. in fact i've learned mr. caisson has delegated a great deal of decision making that is normally within the secretary purview. what is the scope of mr. caisson's role at the department? does it oversee the cobell agreement and putting land in the trust? >> well, i share your -- well, perhaps not. but to date i don't have my deputy. of all the senate confirmed individuals, i don't even have my deputy. so i have about 70 appointments, 20 or so senate confirmed. and to date i have no senate confirm. so i have magnificent candidates, bia included but they're not in the office. so mr. caisson is my acting deputy at the moment and comes with a lot of experience from his previous tour in the bush administration on it. as you know, i think it was january 19th when i probably had an interior eight or nine decisions of trust coming in. i think we went to court on two of them on determinations whether or not it's appropriate to take a trust in. so i would love to get a stable platform of -- >> okay, i'm hearing this lead

these caissons on both sides of the bridge, both ends of the bridge, he come part of the -- they become part of the permanent structure, they were filled with cement and remain underneath the east river. they are still part of the structure. you can imagine, it is 1869, not a shovel of dirt has been turned at the site or location of the brooklyn bridge, but john roebling and his eldest son are there surveying. as they are standing on the pier, a ferry boat approaches and crashes into the pier. it crushes roebling's foot and it ultimately becomes a mortal injury because he contracts tetanus. not being one who believes in traditional medicine -- he believed in water therapy, he throws the doctors out of the apartment where he was living and staying and work and says, water, water. they kept pouring water on the wound. this, of course, does not work. tetanus is not a fun experience, nor is any illness, but it is an excruciating way to go. he suffers and passes within days, and washington roebling, his eldest son, becomes the chief engineer on the brooklyn bridge project. it took an additio

commander in chief but can we ever really win in afghanistan joining me now is jim caisson associate general secretary for strategic advocacy at the friends committee on national legislation jim welcome back thank you tom it's great had to be yours thank you so what is the current situation afghanistan well the u.s. has been at war in afghanistan for over fifteen years now and we've had one hundred thousand troops and we've got a little less than ten thousand troops al-qaeda the taliban all these forces are operating there the taliban by some estimates controls forty percent. all of the territory by some estimates controls ninety percent of the territory outside of the cities so i think one would have to say that the us and the us allies are not countries are not bringing peace to afghanistan afghanistan was this as i recall the second poorest country in the world after burkina faso i think in you know when we first started bombing them they had an annual g.d.p. of two billion dollars you know worse we're spending two billion dollars every day it seems i mean we did you know we spent

something called the free trade zone, the caisson free trade zone where the south koreans benefit fromn labor. all that money goes to the north korean government and people never see it. this is slave labor because we allow the south koreans to do this. lou: let me turn to james comey and whether he should be in your judgment investigated. whether we should shut down the bob mueller democratic parade that he's turned the special counsel's office into. >> i'm surprised mueller hasn't offered bill clinton on his team. if you want to have a counsel like this, lou, bring in someone who is competent. the president is well within his rights to say mueller is not working out. i'm not saying no to the special counsel, i'm saying no to him. james comey. everybody i talked to, professionals in the intelligence community and law enforcement feel he perjured himself at a minimum what as you probably in charge of some of the leaking. he's the poster child for the deep state. he's become emblematic of what's wrong with this town. lou: mexico's murder rate has done something a lot of people thought w

to people that have made those cases before the past, it's a very, very hard thing to prove when a caisson be able to prove a crime was committed obstructing justice. in a case like this, it would be something like bribery. the complexity of it has a lot of people -- it is catnip for the press, and people who love politics but for a lot of people i think they are like, what is this all about? they don't care that much about it and the fact that this could be no charges brought, i would argue, it amounts to nothing. >> bret: that is the bottom line. it's a political process and you had paul ryan saying we would not impeach a democrat with this evidence. let alone a republican. republican house and senate. >> right, because the sitting president is not going to be indicted over this, the question is, how much pressure will come from the congress, from his own party? he's not going to be impeached. the problem is, first of all, we don't know what we don't know and we have to come back to it. >> bret: he said many, many of the stories have been wrong, dead wrong. this is comey. >> bret: the da