rose: welcome to the program, we begin this evening with a former prime minister of qatar hamad bin jassim bin jaber al thani. he talks about the efforts of some gulf countries to isolate qatar. >> a sovereignty of qatar is the most important thing for us. and the integrity. and that we will defend until the last minute. the problem that all these allegations or all these talks about qata they have no solid base. >> rose: we continue with david leonhardt. the pulitzer prize winning columnist of the new york tiemsz. >> i would argue the most important things we don't know, it is possible that we don't know there are largely innocent explanations for a lot of it. but i do think there are two damaging things we do know. one, he was not honest when he testified before. he can argue well i didn't understand the question but i think any fair reading makes clear he was not fully honest. and two is what you just hinted at, which is he said he was going to recuse himself from the russia investigation and then he played an active role in the firing of comey. and i don't see anyway that you can claim that recu

joining us is sheikh hamad bin jassim bin jaber al-thani, the former prime minister, and the close friendf the president and his father. i am pleased to have him at the table. welcome. the president of the united states visits saudi arabia, announces he fully supports saudi arabia and the emirates, and others efforts to isolate iran. several days later, we have an announcement that these arab states want to isolate qatar. they connected? what's going on? simply,amad al-thani: we have been caught by surprise. we went to the conference. i think we had a good meeting with the conference. there are always issues between our two countries are other countries, and it has been solved through the right channels. iran,, orlating isolating qatar, they are now saying we have a very special relation and sympathy with iran and terrorism, and financing terrorism. first of all with iran, if you take it from commercial base, which is very important, qatar maybe 1% compared to the other gulf states of their trade with iran. even in syria, we are in a different position with the iranian and syrian war. , y

rose: welcome to the program, we begin this evening with a former prime minister of qatar hamad bin jassim bin jaber al thani. he talks about the efforts of some gulf countries to isolate qatar. >> a sovereignty of qatar is the most important thing for us. and the integrity. and that we will defend until the last minute. the problem that all these allegations or all these talks about qatar, they have no solid base. >> rose: we continue with david leonhardt. the pulitzer prize winning columnist of the new york tiemsz. >> i would argue the most important things we don't know, it is possible that we don't know there are largely innocent explanations for a lot of it. but i do think there are two damaging things we do know. one, he was not honest when he testified before. he can argue well i didn't understand the question but i think any f r