healthcare is still, healthcare is a service business. it's like the hotel business in that regard you. at least the hospital sector it's a service business that involves people. the kind of thing you're describing if it were applied to health. would involve things that would allow the technology to replace people. i think that beyond that, there are many aspects about technology more broadly that i think has substantially impacted the cost of healthcare. i guess it falls into category if you think it's bad now, you should see what it would look like if it had not happened. let me give you my best example. it's one we hav happen to know t because the people involved in the development of minimally invasive surgery include the researchers at cedars-sinai. i'd like you to stop and think for a minute what the total cost of healthcare in america would be if when you needed your gallbladder out, you came to the hospital and spent seven to ten days after having your chest open or your abdomen, excuse me, i'm not getting evidence, i'm not a phys

last week he told people that the healthcare bill was mean. and once again we find ourselves agreeing with the president, this bill is mean. very mean. it is cutting medicare to the bone, that is mean, cutting opioid abuse is mean. allowing insurers to once again discriminate against americans with pre-existing conditions is mean. charging older americans as much is five times more for their healthcare is mean. passing a law that would cause millions of americans to these health insurance in order to give it tax breaks to the uber wealthy is pretty much the textbook definition of a mean bill. apparently the president thinks so too. republicans should not feel like this mean bill cooked up in secret is their only option. for starters, if they were actually serious about improving the american healthcare system, they would stop sabotaging the marketplace. and threatening to stop the critical cost-sharing payments which help keep deductibles and premiums down. senator mcconnell keeps and had to step in because obamacare is having problems. he is

the with people's healthcare. healthcare is a right, not a privilege.t' that is the promise we made to the american people with the affordable care act and it is a promise that we must keep. the president is keeping his promise to the rich in our country, they have now written a healthcare plan for one sixth oi our economy that slashes $800 billion that be used for the poor, the sick, for the for working class, for senior citizens in nursing homes by $800 billion in order to give an 800 billion-dollar tax break to the wealthiest people in our country. that is wrong, this is a critical moment in our country's history. we as democrats are going to battle every single day here onn the senate floor and across this country to make sure every person understands what the consequences of the sink credibly callous, mean bill wilr me in each tax on the elderly, medicaid cuts that hurt families across our country, reduced access to care threatening the protection for pre-existing conditions and resulting in higher premiums f

not to have healthcare? >> gabby morrongiello, can you answer that? >> that is something republicans are still wrestling with. i know in the original score of the house bill, i think that it was about 14 million? i could be wrong but i want to say 14 million who under the affordable care act right now are obviously either penalized for not having health insurance because you have the individual mandate and by removing that, there would be a number of americans who would not purchase health insurance because they are either healthy or just don't feel that they need it at this point in time. this is something republicans have been working to address. there was something that came up last week. they were saying if we remove this individual mandate there might be some individuals who will purchase insurance at the last minute right after they actually need it if they are in a car accident or what have you. they have been working on putting measures into the bill that would try and discourage that type of behavio

not my obamacare but by the american healthcare system. but by our healthcare system. which is less predictable, less affordable than many countries around the world. now, president trump new this. he's a smart politician. i never thought he was going to win, never thought he was going to win. but i on a campaign that on so many dimensions was out of step with conventional american political thought. >> and i was wrong, he won. i don't think he represents a traditional republican view and that may be one reason you want. >> in no sense do i think of donald trump as a conservative. in i think of him as quite radical. in his proposals. i think of him as a reactionary force on a political system that the american people for whatever reason, some of them probably good reasons were losing patience with. but you can't deny that the guy somehow in the far reaches of trump tower somehow had his finger on the pulse of what was going on in this country. in some parts of this country. i don't know if it's because he was a reality tv star or what was but one of those things was he

country mobilizing against trumpcare because healthcare is personal. i am encouraged that so many people have been calling all of us and making their voices heard. the majority leader and donald trump can try to jam this bill down our throats but we are not going to let them succeed and we are going to hold them accountable. the fight continues. i yield the floor. >> the democratic leader. >> i want to salute all of us in the senate, our great senator from hawaii, her courage, her strength, her conviction to help people who need help is inspiring. that is the only word i can think of. inspiring to every one of us. we can't wait for you to rejoin the fight, doubly invigorated. i yield the floor. >> i would like to thank my friend and colleague senator hirono for her words and willingness to share how this bill, impacting millions of americans with preexisting conditions. i along with everyone else in this chamber wish her the best and speedy recovery, the people of hawaii and the people of the united states. after weeks of secret meeting senate republic

you're an expert on healthcare. what everyone's wondering is, if this senate bill passes and becomes law, what does it mean for people who rely on the affordable care act? sarah: it means a lot of changes, it would overhaul the way healthcare works for a group of 20 million people, generally people who don't get health insurance through work but get it through medicaid or the individual market. folks on medicaid would probably notice the biggest change with medicaid expansion phasing out starting in 2021. by 2024, that program would be gone and that covers an estimated about 12million orso low-income americans, people earning less than $15,000. people in the rest of the medicaid program would notice very big changes, as well. one of the big things this does that isn't about obamacare, it rejiggers how the medicaid program is funded. right now, the federal government has an open-ended funding commitment. under this bill, the bills would be capped, essentially. that for each person there would be a lump sum of money

that is the case with this series of republican so-called healthcare bills, healthcare 2.0, trumpcare 3.0. they are all rotten to the core and the more they sit out there, the stink years a guess and the american people know it. take a look at the most recent congressional budget office report we have today. and these congressional budget office reports, and this latest version, and here is the pattern, tens of millions of americans will lose access to affordable healthcare in the united states of america in order to provide tax breaks for powerful special interests then richer americans, that is the pattern in this most recent report. we were told by the nonpartisan professionals at the budget office 20 million american will lose access to affordable healthcare. to give powerful special interests, a tax break and what the americans. insurance companies, and the bonuses to their ceos. tens of millions lose access to affordable care, millionaires in america, average annual tax break of $50,000 every year. and it has nothing to do with healthcare and everything to do with wealth care an

you think a break is bad to pass senate healthcare. i think a break to go home for the 4th of july and let the republican senators get lit up by their constituents is a great thing. they will come back and think my god, i have got to get something done on healthcare because my constituents are livid. it's not just republican senators. where are the american republicans and independents crushed by healthcare, why they sit on the sidelines doing nothing. they should be part of the solution. try to get a market system to work in healthcare so republicans and democrats won't be blipped over the 4th of july. kennedy: it's not a market system it's a medicaid system and tax subsidy system. it has the same structures and pill lars that obamacare -- and pillars obamacare had. the senate version is less popular than the house version. it's pretty incredible. let's say that the senate bill either fails to make it through the cincinnati senate or gets to you and your party people in the house and it dies there. what happens to tax reform if health

i have been involved with healthcare. family was involved in healthcare, owned a nursing home 1984, and it is passion of mine to look at healthcare trends and research i did and what i found spent $500 billion on several choices, one of which at moking related disease $160 billion every year. what we have to do and it is a for all of us to learn, look to ourselves. know, using smoking as an example, we've had 40 education. it's time to take smoking related disease out of insurance system where we put that on a specific budget. example of that would be you reate a tax, it is high cost, high-risk tax, $50 per month per person, that is what it would for each and every one of us to contribute. put that within the state and we the system so it goes directly from paychecks or weicare or whatever payments make. then we say to ourselves as individuals, if you make the you have to ke, understand that we're not going the last 2 million on six months of your life. it is not a death panel, it is a are and how ere we it's driving the

the gop healthcare plan derailed. president trump summoning almost all gop senators in a meeting that just wrapped up. >> we are getting very close. but for the country we have to have healthcare. it can't be obamacare. but i think we have a chance to do something very, very important for the public and important for the country and the people we love. charles: on one side they want more spending for medicaid and opioid treatment. the other side, they want to get rid of the exchanges and stability fund. can the negotiator-in-chief bridge that gap between big and small government fan generate a passable healthcare bill? john, you came out pretty hard today. your organization saying flat out you did not like this bill, it does not adhere to conservative principles. point the finger at ted cruz and others saying if this doesn't get through, they will have to batter consequences. >> we were promised a repeal of obamacare for a decade and that isn't what this bill is. charles: mitch mcconnell says it's unfair for you and o

they talked about reducing how much we spent on healthcare. one of the big things they came up with is a tax on expensive plans. it would cause a disincentive for employers who are spending a ton of money on these goldplated plans. interestingly that's the one obamacare taxa kept in place. i think they bought into the theory but it doesn't get implemented until 2026.not beca it keeps being postpones. the democrats don't like it because their members have generous plans so the democrats have postponed this they've tried to eliminate it even though it was in obama's in initial vision.scretion their view is if you can contribute more to it you can exercise more consumer discretion. the y rand paul, who i don't think will flip to a yes, his argument is this bill is obamacare light. the subsidies in the republican bill are just as costly when you total them all up. it's contributing to medical inflation and causing cost to go up.expecting it will keep one of the main obamacare reforms that i don't think people are expecting the service premiums tha

pleased with healthcare that i have. healthcare th united healthcare. i'm 67 years old. i get tot healthcare, choice.e clinic of my it's really good for me and there's a lot of seniors that go there. i'm hoping this new healthcare that.oesn't change my doctor we get referrals if we become sick. like to say that, i'm hoping nothing changes to the hospitalhospitals that takes cae my income residents in district. they go to parkland. has county hospital its a takes care of them under their special insurance. hoping nothing changes there. thank you. host: she's satisfied with her healthcare. how does that change depending on what happens? guest: she sound like she's in plan.re advantage that is somewhat largely untouched. rulesconciliation restrict house republicans able theo in terms of repealing affordable care act. she's also raised questions about the future programs in her that do rely on federal money. bye of which is affected legislation that washington is debating now. thinkg question that i will remain regardless what beyond,next week or which is, there are around 2

generally healthcare does tend to always go up. healthcare costs go up. the question is is the rates of the increase. is it going to go up by 5%, 10% or 15%. when you launch more taxes on employer sponsored health insurance it goes up more quickly. host: we have jim calling from royal oak michigan. good morning jim. caller: yes. i was a corporate employer for bluecross blueshield for michigan. at that time i was called the erisa expert. any changes will not affect just a small employer. will affect -- we had employers with 100 employees that were choose the erisa just so they would not have to pay the state mandated benefits. guest: what you see is in certain states there are literally hundreds of different requirements. those requirements are good for some parent -- patients. they end up raising costs. you would have lot of small businesses that say, we ought to consider self-insuring. host: your organization went to senator orin hatch. what were you telling the smart? guest: senator hatch reached out to trade associations they asked for businesses to we

we leave intact the healthcare for seniors and it's not touched by this at all. when the time comes for us to deal with medicare, i think that the debate we should have and we welcome it. >> mr. president, i would just simply say that i'm proposing that instead of this which is a, sensually burning down the house in american terms of healthcare, that you instead join with us and what you've admitted is one costs in this country is what we want to tackle, mr. president, we want to bring down the cost.e we want to bring downre out-of-pocket cost of drugs for everyone whose co-pays and premiums are too high. that we want to do. taking away nursing homes, care, the ability for a parent to take the child to a doctor, someone with cancer, to get the treatment they need or smallex business owner to be blocked from getting healthcare because of pre-existing condition, we consider that burning down the house, we are opposed to that. frankly, we love to have a ceremony and light is on fire and then come back together and work together on this number one driver which is the

healthcare, as the so much rhetoric. sit down and try to figure out how other instance, for like canada, how they maintain and what they are doing and how are their thing? o much american greed that seems like nothing is going to happen, in america, if you don't because of the greed, nobody is going to put anything into a system where you make money. just like educational system, off an't make money education. so, you know, that is out. things that if you don't make money off of it, you know, not going to happen. another instance, when i was 2008, i went job searching for another job. in the most 30 years plant, but not enough to retire. to the people i was talking that was -- had business, they that they g me couldn't get any credit in the beginning of the year like they do because the banks wouldn't give them credit. all i got to say. host: what kind of plant did you at? caller: the factory. host: what kind of factory? what did you make? auto supply factory. host: what do you do now? caller: since we're talking that, g

healthcare system. how will it impact? >> i think the complexity of the healthcare issue is great. we all know that. we are trying to provide good quality care for every american and reduce the overall medical expense. and the healthcare plan the thee considering in congress has the problem of trying to make trade-offs based on the way we deliver conventional services. we look at how we do that. but at a level of expense that is more rational, given the pressures that we have on costs in this country. and that requires changes in behavior on the part of providers, on the part of the government in term of the wait compensate and looking at ways to more fairly compensate providers to figure out how they can provide a broad rank of services at much lower expense. maria: they want to see premiums come down. broadly speaking, what he haven't seen a massive legislative victory out of this administration, and they are talking about healthcare reform and tax reform. how important is it for economic growth for i

we're pleased the senate is moving forward on healthcare reform. obamacare is in the middle of the tailspin. the law is collapsing before our eyes. your home state of ohio, 18 counties will go without a health insurer in the exchange next year 94 to 99 counties in iowa. we have to rescue it and we're excited the senate is taking it up. they'll have lots of amendments. a lengthy legislative process but i'm excited the senate is taking it up. >> bill: there are republicans in the house warning mitch mcconnell not to make too many changes. at the same time you have the president last week say what happened in the -- what passed in the house was sad. do you need to win him over or republicans in the house? >> i don't really think that accurately reflects the president's sentiment about the healthcare bill. it was a misinterpretation of a private meeting. i've spoken to the president many times. he is excited what we did in the house. >> bill: you're saying he is on board? >> he is on board and the senate will take their amendments and i assume they'll

host: senate's work on healthcare. the topic of our next discussion, the longer look at what healthcare might look like in the united states. two guests joining us. we're joined by sarah kliff of the website vox. also joining us for this discussion from the "washington journal" reporter louise radnofsky. ms. radnofsky, you didn't write this story. your colleague say there's a planned vote on healthcare. especially on the senate side for next week. could you give a sense of the white house's role and what they like to see happen if it does happen? guest: the time line, the text is expected this week. cbo score early next week and a potentially a vote on thursday. the white house said is it is not yet aware it has the 50 votes. they'll have a firmer sense by end of the week. they are confident things are heading in the right direction. host: sarah cliff kliff of that confidence. they want to take a gamble on this voting. guest: we seen the house charging towards a vote back in march. they are getting ready. paul ryan say

people have worked on healthcare for many years. it's a very complicated situation from the standpoint you do something that's good for one group but bad for another. it's a very, very narrow path. but i think we're going to get there. we have four very good people that he not that they are opposed. they would like to get certain changes. and we will see if we can take care of that. ainsley: we're getting word now that some democrats even want nancy pelosi to step down. a lot of republicans think democrats are in denial, they didn't win the special elections. they don't have the house. they don't have the senate. they don't have the white house. what do democrats need to do? are they in denial and what do they need to do to get on board. >> first of all, i hope she doesn't step down. it would be a very, very sad day for republicans if she steps down. i would be very, very disappointed if she did. i would like to keep her right where she is because our record is extraordinary against her. but we will see what happens. there has been

healthcare. no skull is linda in dallas, texas, go ahead.healthca >> caller: i'm quite please with the healthcare that i have. under that healthcare didn't go to the clinic or my chores it really is good and i'm hoping with new health care bill it does not change in a bit my dr. would get referrals and also i'd like to say that i'm hopinge that nothing changes to the hospitals that take care of the low income residents in my district. they go to parkland hospital. they take care of them under their special insurance. i'm hoping nothing changes there. fi thank you. >> someone who is satisfied with healthcare. how does that change depending on what happens?gu >> it sounds like she is that a medicare advantage plan. the somewhat untouched with what's going on in the hill.commun she is also raising questions about the future of programs in her community that to rely to some extent of federal money some of which is affected by the legislation that legislation iss debating right now.eek the big questio

being helped by healthcare. healthcare s&p 500 index up more than 1% on pace for fifthn record close. let's look at the worst sector 500. for the s&p the financial sector, really being dragged on by yield. ten year yield down two bases points. is -- we do have some of the banks trading lower ahead noting, wells fargo when the second release part, ubs qualitative and morgan stanley, that might be only bank to not pass. time will tell. turning to healthcare, digging in a little bit. mcgorman told our team the reason we're seeing huge rally for healthcare today, release of that senate healthcare bill, many investors watchers it's you can likely to be passed any time soon. we have rally from everything hospitals to managed care pharma.ch to far we hop into the bloomberg take a look at btv. chart. the year to date we have the s&p 500 in blue up about 9% on top in white, the 500 healthcare index up 17%. sectorlipped by the tech and in yellow we have the energy sector down about 15%. that sectorows rotation everybody i

do you see the selloff as related to the delay in the healthcare vote?do you do about that >> we're sort of in a quiet period for fundamental news. the second quarter earnings season has not started yet the summer volumes tend to be light. the market is prone to overreact to whatever happens. i think that was part of it yesterday. that calls into question the timing and pace of the rest of the white house and republican a agend agenda markets up 8%. nasdaq up about 14%. a little profit taking not out of the question. >> up 8% in the broad market, 10% with dividends does that moean we front load a lot of gains >> i think it's justified by the rebound in corporate earnings. that's the real news in july we get more and more evidence as to whether or not that earnings rebound continues. my extechtat expectation is tha. that news flow continues to be resilient. all the news, fundamental increase in earnings drives the market >> you mentioned a quiet period for fundamental drivers of the market as you look out what are some dates, events or issues that could t

and gop leaders are pushing on the an agreement on healthcare.agreement by friday and a vote later. the number 3 republican in the senate telling fox news the time to act is right now. >> we would like to get a solution in place as quickly as possible. get our members there. so it's a questioning of getting the cbo score and setting up the votes for when we get back after the fourth of july break. i don't know that there's any particular rush other than the longer that this strikes out, the harder it becomes. i've said this before. there comes a point when you have to make some decisions and move forward and vote. we're at that point. >> time to make decisions. republicans can afford to lose but two votes and pass the bill. yesterday afternoon, three more republicans said they were against the plan as written. the total is now nine. a new poll from "usa today" and suffolk university that shows americans do not like this plan. it's approval and a survey taken saturday through yesterday shows 17% approval nationwide. still mississippi's senator rog

government healthcare for all sounds wonderful. but it also means no competition and no choice which means no winners. the poll speaks to ways going on with this healthcare debate it's so complicated nobody knows what the best course of action is. we are not just talking about democrats versus republicans. we are talking about republicans versus republicans. is it better to pass a bad -- kennedy: it doesn't even lower costs. >> you need a bill that lowers costs to health coverage and improves quality of care. we have the government with many redundancies in the way it approaches immediate car -- apps medicare and medicaid. many doctors are dropping medicaid because it only reimburses 61 cents on the dollar that medicare would reimburse. kennedy: you compare it to buying women $8mai-tais. when you are at a bar you think it might be a good idea. people are for it because they don't know wait costs. let's buy carley and her friends a round of mai-tais. once we finds out it's $18 a drink, we punt and go home. kennedy: illinois could be

but i do take your point about healthcare. i think this is a very important eelection as far as healthcare goes. tom's wife betty, has a statehouse district in the heart of cairn's political base. so she can't walk away from that house bill. and she's had to do this dance where she defends it and yet wants to distance herself from it. there are 14,000 medical workers with jobs in the sixth district. 25,000 medical workers work in john lewis's sixth district next door, but i bet you half of them live in the sixth. >> who is the swung voter? >> i think so. i think the swing voter is female, moderate, conservative on social issues, maybe a lilt bit more moderate on fiscal issues. she has kids in college, doesn't like the gun debate, and i think some of the excesses of the trump administration make her very nervous. >> it seems as if both candidates have flaws, and i'm wondering do you think they cancel each other out or will these flaws be extra highlighted if they lose? with osoff it's inexperience and youth. with handet it's sh

was on my second point healthcare and i'll let you go, took healthcare, if you all of congress and all of them and put them down to $20,000 per took away their insurance, believe me, we'd have a healthcare program. they would get something done quickly? aller: oh, they'd get it done themy damn quick if one of was sick. host: kevin, you may know the senate has been -- the house version of the legislation, the senate is orking on it and according to reports it's been working on it behind closed doors for weeks, time.is washington trump plans to help the senate pass their healthcare bill, for weeks mr. trump given mitch mcconnell of kentucky breathing cheering ite a bill, on the effort from the sideline, but with the floor shutdown looming, the president plans to up his involvement with phone calls and tweets to get he bill through the house last month. the senators, as we said, meeting blind closed doors this to learn more about the legislation. bird ran into a republican she alaska and asked her if had seen a bill text this morning or quote, i am not a reporter and i'm not a lobbyist, s

senate healthcare bill until their july recess. we talk to ezra klein of vox and andy slavitt, the former acting administrator of the centers for medicare and medicaid services. >> so the kroovment bo of the bill would lead to 22 million people less having insurance but it is actually much worse than that in what they said was going to happen. the real key thing that the congressional budget office found was the way this bill would work, it would put poor people into care that was either so expensive in terms of its premiums or so high in terms of its deductibles that the plan, the plans of the bill is built around would have deductibles of 6,000 or more dollars, they said, basically, no poor people, no low-income folks would actually buy plans under this legislation. >> well, these guys get off the air, airplane in their hometown and run into a mob with a kid who they have been pushing this child in a wheelchair because they have disabilities. and that mom gives these senators a piece of their mind, and that happens all the time a

i have it with united healthcare healthcare. i'm 67 years old and under that healthcare get to go to the clinic of my choice and it's really is good for me and there's a lot of seniors that go there. i'm hoping that with this new health care bill that does not change in the rates are good and my dr. will get referrals if we ever become sick. also i want to say that i'm hoping nothing changes to the hospitals that take care of thee low income residents in my district. because they go to a hospital, dallas has a hospital that takes care of them under their special insurance. i hope that nothing changes there. >> someone who is satisfied with her healthcare, how does that change depending on what gues happened. >> sounds like she's in a medicare advantage plan. that is somewhat largely untouched by what is going on because a reconciliation rules restate what house republicans do in repealing the act. she's also raising concerns about those that rely on federal money, some of which is affected by legislation that washington is debat

i think the caucus would love to work to get healthcare for -- better healthcare system. fix the problem with the current healthcare system. but the price of admission, 22 million we've been working for, that's going to be tough to swallow. >> reporter: many have noted if addressing healthcare were easy, it would have been done long ago and likely in a bipartisan fashion. julie? >> julie: mike emanuel, thank you very much. >> reporter: sure. >> julie: for more on this, chris stirewalt, thank you very much, chris, for talking to us. all right. so i want you to react to now potentially repealing, but not replacing right away. a senior white house source has confirmed to fox that they just don't expect any break through in the senate today on a bill. then i want to read this tweet sent out earlier by president trump. he said earlier today, you know, if republican senators are unable to pass what they are working on now, they should immediately repeal and then replace at a later date. so, what does that mean? >> well, it means they're back to where they started back in march.

it was covered under her husband's healthcare plan.didn't have insurance, that bill would have surpassed $230,000. alison joins me now. we should note you were never on obamacare, is that right? >> obamacare isn't one insurance plan. >> right. >> obamacare is a set of regulations that govern insurance plan, so we are protected by obamacare. >> right. >> if that makes sense. we were on medicaid. >> you were on medicaid. >> yep. >> you would potentially fall victim, if the bill passed as it, what would that mean for you? >> this bill -- the reason i wanted to share our story was to bring a part of the conversation maybe people aren't talking about as much, this affects not just people who get their healthcare insurance through the healthcare exchanges that everyone refers to as obamacare but those covered under employer plans because the aca is a set of protections and regulation, it says any insurance plan has to cover certain things and can't stop paying out benefits when they decided my kid is too expensive. >> i want to go through th

we are looking at a healthcare that would be a fantastic tribute to our country, a healthcare that will of people, finally, for the right reasons and also at the right cost. and what also came out is the fact that this healthcare would be so good, it would be far better than obamacare and would be much less expensive for the people, and actually much less expensive, also, for the country. so those are a lot of good factors. i think this has a chance to be a great healthcare. >> seth: he sounds like a high school student who didn't read the book, or have the book, or know how to read. [ cheers and applause ] in fact, trump ally -- trump ally newt gingrich, the former speaker of the house admitted yesterday that trump is incapable of grasping the policy details, saying someone else should come up with an argument in favor of the gop healthcare bill, and then explain it to trump. gingrich told the a.p., trump will be able to repeat it with enormous effectiveness once somebody translates it. [ light laughter ] great. you know, just make sure that if you let him out of his cage, all the wind

>> it's not even a healthcare bill it's a tax cut for the wealthiest americans. >> it's not a healthcare bill, it's a tax cut for the rich. >> republicans cannot excise the rotten core at the center of their healthcare bill. kennedy: the donkeys have no desire to get government out of the way. obstruction is not an operating principle and propping it up for political gain is no way to fix a system that's dying. obamacare flat lined. do not resuscitate it and put healthcare in a vegetative sta state. i'm kennedy. the white house slamming the cbo score on the healthcare bill saying quote the cbo has consistently proven it cannot predict how healthcare will impact insurance coverage. does the white house have a point? are the cbo numbers inaccurate? and is this why the vote was delayed? joining me, the white house reporter at the daily beast *. what does the cbo score have to do with the delay. >> it's a baseline we have to measure the effects of legislation. the number of people that might have health insurance. but you see this kind of criticism coming from both side when cbo numbers come

that doesn't mean people are losing healthcare. everybody knows obamacare was just a giant tax hike on the economy. it slowed down the economy. it's another reason why we've continued to have sub2% growth for the last 8 years. this administration's 100% focused on creating economic growth, creating jobs, creating proper wages and getting this economy back to 3% or higher. yes, right here in the front. >> first of all, congratulations. >> thank you very much. >> i have got a couple finance questions. could you talk ant just push came to shove, would you advise for prioritizing debt payments or not? and do you believe that the review of chinese investments into the u.s. should be more careful or more involved? >> again, let me just make a comment. i do chair it. i take it very seriously. ky tell you the reviews are very careful and very involved no matter who's on the other side. it's very important for national security and we will use that to the maximum powers. in regards to prioritization, again, i think that congress should act

on healthcare, he's not engaged.mparison to president obama who the times worshipped. but look at the healthcare that president obama created, the mess that came it from. when the president said you can keep your doctor, you can keep this plan, did he not know what was in the bill for all of his engagement? or was he lying? so i think that this comparison that the times sets up has been unstated that trump is wrong. trump is doing it the wrong way. the other people always did it right. trump always does it wrong. whatever it is. so i find it, the whole premise, just part of the demonization of donald trump. >> neil: i agree with that. that they'll jump at any potential negative there. but i regular covering the ronald reagan tax cuts at the time. he was quite involved in that. he has a reputation years later, but he knew every intricacy and every congressman that he had to win over, particularly the southern democrats. he knew what he had to do. he shepparded the process every inch of the way. does this president nee

do healthcare reform "next we're gonna do tax reform next." and then, they come back and they go, "well no, "we're gonna do healthcare reform next." obviously, tax reform is gonna come up somewhere. what does tax reform look like that this president proposes that you could get behind? is there any kind to propose? - well, let me first make the transition with you from healthcare to. so, after their bill failed the president, in a very professional way, taking full responsibility said, "i would never have done it that way." and so, one of the judgements you make about leaders in those situations, who's gonna take responsibility. it happens on your watch you take responsibility. so, he said, "no, i wouldn't have done it that way. "the speaker i told the speaker i wanted to "take up the tax bill first before healthcare." and, the speaker responded by saying, "we couldn't "do the tax bill first 'cause we needed the "trillion dollars we were getting out of "the healthcare bill to help cover the tax bill." which was the complete admission that the h

won six of which is related to healthcare. they are enormous for hospitals that rely upon the third-party reimbursements under theospita medicaid expansion.or these hospitals need those revenues. and even more so for the rural hospitals that keep their doors open thanks to the aca. and the indian healthcare services facilities that reduced wait times and services because of the aca. but the majority refuses to hold hearings and they are blocking no public participation. this is unconscionable and undemocratic. before the republicans and democrats voted on obamacare,tte the senate held 100 committee hearings, roundtables and senat walk-throughs. the final senate bill included 147 republican amendments. a the majority leader has missed an opportunity for political and moral leadership on one of the most important issues we face. senator mcconnell should have an been honest and open process including senate committee hearings. with full public participation and a chance for patients to tell congress how this proposal impacts them