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the monroe family was close-knit and stay together even as james embarked on a busy political career in the united states. between 1778 and 1811, monroe compiled a larger and longer public service resume than anyone who is been elected president of the united states. he practiced law in fredericksburg, served as a state and federal legislator, was a delicate to the virginia ratifying convention of the u.s. constitution, and was elected to four terms as governor of virginia. he was u.s. ambassador to france twice. also to great britain and to spain. he tell negotiate the louisiana purchase coming into attempt to help with the resolution of the treaty which was only supposed to have been for the acquisition of the port of new orleans and then presented with the opportunity to buy all of louisiana. fortunately for the country's development, there was a quick decision on that part that later would prove very important. attendedwith his wife, the coronation of napoleon bonaparte. unfortunately he was doing some diplomacy trying to negotiate with the british over issues over the navigation
the monroe family was close-knit and stay together even as james embarked on a busy political career in the united states. between 1778 and 1811, monroe compiled a larger and longer public service resume than anyone who is been elected president of the united states. he practiced law in fredericksburg, served as a state and federal legislator, was a delicate to the virginia ratifying convention of the u.s. constitution, and was elected to four terms as governor of virginia. he was u.s....
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james monroe was born april 28, 1758 in westmoreland county. while not possessing the large landholdings or wealth of some of their neighbors, the monroe's lived comfortably and were able to send their eldest son to one of the best local schools. among his schoolmates was future u.s. supreme court justice john marshall who would be his lifelong friend and occasional political adversary. monroe entered the college of william and mary in june of 1774. like many of his classmates, he was caught up in revolutionary fervor. he was part of a group of students to seize arms from the governor's palace. in february of next year, he was commissioned a lieutenant in the third virginia infantry. the third virginia under the command of george weeden of fredericksburg joined the continental army of long island. on september 16, the regiment took part in the victory at harlem heights. promoted to captain and the major after recovering from his trenton woman, monroe became an eight to the american general william alexander who claimed the british title, lord st
james monroe was born april 28, 1758 in westmoreland county. while not possessing the large landholdings or wealth of some of their neighbors, the monroe's lived comfortably and were able to send their eldest son to one of the best local schools. among his schoolmates was future u.s. supreme court justice john marshall who would be his lifelong friend and occasional political adversary. monroe entered the college of william and mary in june of 1774. like many of his classmates, he was caught up...
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james monroe was born april 28, 1758 in westmoreland county. while not possessing the large landholdings or wealth of some of their neighbors, the monroe's lived comfortably and were able to send their eldest son to one of the best local schools. the campbelltown academy. among his schoolmates was future u.s. supreme court justice john marshall who would be monroe's lifelong friend and occasional political adversary. monroe entered the college of william and mary in june of 1774. like many of his classmates, he was caught up in revolutionary fervor. monroe was part of a group of students to seize arms from the governor's palace. in february of next year, he was commissioned a lieutenant in the third virginia infantry. the third virginia under the command of george weeden of fredericksburg joined the continental army on long island. on september 16, the regiment took part in the american victory at harlem heights. majored to captain then after recovering from his trenton woman, monroe became an aide to the american general william alexander who c
james monroe was born april 28, 1758 in westmoreland county. while not possessing the large landholdings or wealth of some of their neighbors, the monroe's lived comfortably and were able to send their eldest son to one of the best local schools. the campbelltown academy. among his schoolmates was future u.s. supreme court justice john marshall who would be monroe's lifelong friend and occasional political adversary. monroe entered the college of william and mary in june of 1774. like many of...
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which james monroe never got to stay in. monroe signed legislation and had it built, but he did not stay in the governor's position long enough to enjoy the house that he authorized. sir? audience member: what about the relationship between monroe and lafayette? scott: it was a friendship born of shared service during the revolution. and also coincided with monroe's awakening to the wider political and social world of the french thinkers and writers who had such an impact on revolutionary thought. and lafayette helped that and the fact that they were both masons, young soldiers, it cemented a bond between them. lafayette had wonderful relationships with many of his contemporaries as well. but the affection and correspondence between them continued. monroe's presence in france actually coincided with the time lafayette was in exile yet there , was still interaction. monroe and mrs. monroe were particularly instrumental in a publicized visit to madame lafayette's imprisonment. to help convince french authorities not to execute
which james monroe never got to stay in. monroe signed legislation and had it built, but he did not stay in the governor's position long enough to enjoy the house that he authorized. sir? audience member: what about the relationship between monroe and lafayette? scott: it was a friendship born of shared service during the revolution. and also coincided with monroe's awakening to the wider political and social world of the french thinkers and writers who had such an impact on revolutionary...
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this is an hour-long event which is part of a symposium titled, james monroe, presidential gu
this is an hour-long event which is part of a symposium titled, james monroe, presidential gu
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now he has taken his talents to sculpting james monroe. in watching gordon work and being aware of the intensity with which he understands the person he is sculpting, it occurred to me it would be a wise idea that we talk to someone who has physically and visually understood the character of james monroe. it is my privilege to introduce sculptor gordon kray. [applause] gordon kray: thank you very much. it is just like old times here. i am going to be talking about portraying james monroe specifically this is a vehicle , of the new monroe monument at the college. but i will be referring to older , examples, a lot of the use,ence materials that i i learned there out of a book i used for the main point of going back for references. to begin, this is the base of the new monument. here is a continuous narrative relief around the sculpture here. it is basically a two-part monument. we have the relief, and we have the statue of above. this monument is due to the generosity of the owens foundation and therefore site in getting monroe on the campus
now he has taken his talents to sculpting james monroe. in watching gordon work and being aware of the intensity with which he understands the person he is sculpting, it occurred to me it would be a wise idea that we talk to someone who has physically and visually understood the character of james monroe. it is my privilege to introduce sculptor gordon kray. [applause] gordon kray: thank you very much. it is just like old times here. i am going to be talking about portraying james monroe...
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he is the director of the james monroe museum and memorial library. this is a 45 minute event that was hosted in leesburg, virginia. it was part of a symposium of a bicentennial commemoration and reflection of james monroe's migration. >> our first speaker is scott harris, the director of the james monroe museum and memorial
he is the director of the james monroe museum and memorial library. this is a 45 minute event that was hosted in leesburg, virginia. it was part of a symposium of a bicentennial commemoration and reflection of james monroe's migration. >> our first speaker is scott harris, the director of the james monroe museum and memorial
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he is the director of the james monroe museum and memorial library. this is a 45 minute event that was hosted in leesburg, virginia. it was part of a symposium of a bicentennial commemoration and reflection of james monroe's migration. >> our first speaker is scott harris, the director of the james monroe museum and memorial library. he has been as such since 2011. the museum is operated by the university of mary washington in fredericksburg. it is the largest repository in the country for artifacts and documents related to the fifth president of the united states. previously scott was the director of the new market battlefield state historical park owned by vmi. previous to that he was historic director
he is the director of the james monroe museum and memorial library. this is a 45 minute event that was hosted in leesburg, virginia. it was part of a symposium of a bicentennial commemoration and reflection of james monroe's migration. >> our first speaker is scott harris, the director of the james monroe museum and memorial library. he has been as such since 2011. the museum is operated by the university of mary washington in fredericksburg. it is the largest repository in the country...
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he is the director of the james monroe museum and memorial library. event that5 minute was hosted in leesburg, virginia. symposium of aa bicentennial commemoration and reflection of james monroe's migration. >> our first speaker is scott harris, the director of the museum and memorial library. he has been as such since 2011. the museum is operated by the university of mary washington in fredericksburg. it is the largest repository in the country for artifacts and documents related to the fifth president of the united states. previously
he is the director of the james monroe museum and memorial library. event that5 minute was hosted in leesburg, virginia. symposium of aa bicentennial commemoration and reflection of james monroe's migration. >> our first speaker is scott harris, the director of the museum and memorial library. he has been as such since 2011. the museum is operated by the university of mary washington in fredericksburg. it is the largest repository in the country for artifacts and documents related to the...
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you have a young, 18, lieutenant james monroe. he would become the fifth president of the united states. you have quite a few of the founding fathers in the army at this point. once the army is across, they had to wait, the artillery took some time to get across. it is about 4:00 in the morning on december 26. the army has a nine mile march ahead of them. i think it is john greenwood who wrote about the march. he says we marched no faster than a 10-year-old could walk, and stopping frequently. there was a line of march, numerous halts and starts. it took about four hours to go the nine miles. there was a crossroads. the army divided into two columns. they had about a four mile march from there. washington accompanied general green's column, which came in along the northeast side of town. general sullivan came in a long river road. within minutes of each other, they encountered the guard posts on the edge of town and forced them into town. this is a pivotal moment of the revolution. the crossing of the delaware christmas night, fol
you have a young, 18, lieutenant james monroe. he would become the fifth president of the united states. you have quite a few of the founding fathers in the army at this point. once the army is across, they had to wait, the artillery took some time to get across. it is about 4:00 in the morning on december 26. the army has a nine mile march ahead of them. i think it is john greenwood who wrote about the march. he says we marched no faster than a 10-year-old could walk, and stopping frequently....
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and distant cousin of george washington, and the other was future president of the united states james monroeo was a lieutenant under captain washington. those were the two men who were wounded by gunfire. munro almost died from his wound, but survived. those were the primary casualties on the american side. a couple of guys froze to death on the march to trenton, but in the battle itself there were very few american casualties. the americans really felt good about what they had accomplished their. washington was then able to get a lot of the men to reenlist -- excuse me, to extend their enlistments for several weeks, which allow them to then be around for the battle of princeton on january 3. it did encourage men to join the continental army in those new regimens informed. everybody on the rebel side or the patriot side a breath of fresh air that maybe we can deal with this thing now. wass the battle of trenton overcome of the war was certainly not anywhere near over. the war is going to continue until 1783. it's got six and a half years after the battle of trenton and princeton before the w
and distant cousin of george washington, and the other was future president of the united states james monroeo was a lieutenant under captain washington. those were the two men who were wounded by gunfire. munro almost died from his wound, but survived. those were the primary casualties on the american side. a couple of guys froze to death on the march to trenton, but in the battle itself there were very few american casualties. the americans really felt good about what they had accomplished...
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his successor, james monroe totally subscribed to the doctrine of congressional supremacy and the ideahat presidents existed to execute the will of others, that he was utterly silent as president on the burning issue of his day, the admission of missouri to the union and the status of slavery in louisiana territory. however, in his 1933 inaugural address, franken roosevelt rooseveltfranklin called for a temporary the parts are. -- departure. the temporary departure has produced the following reality. it has produced the following visitors to a utah senator's office see to stacks of paper, one is a few inches tall. it contains about 800 pages. it is all the laws congress passed in a particular year. the other pile is 11 feet tall and contains 80,000 pages. those pages contain all the regulations proposed and adopted in one year by executive agencies. logically, executive power is secondary. having as its defining duty is execution of the result of legislatures primary power. until the late 1920's, the election of the president was -- doubly indirect. he was elected by presidential elect
his successor, james monroe totally subscribed to the doctrine of congressional supremacy and the ideahat presidents existed to execute the will of others, that he was utterly silent as president on the burning issue of his day, the admission of missouri to the union and the status of slavery in louisiana territory. however, in his 1933 inaugural address, franken roosevelt rooseveltfranklin called for a temporary the parts are. -- departure. the temporary departure has produced the following...
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madison successor, james monroe totally subscribe to the doctor and of supremacy, adding to the idea that they existed to execute the will of others and that he was utterly silent as president on the burning issue of his day, the admission of misery to the union and the status of slavery in louisiana territory. however, in his 1933 inaugural address, franklin roosevelt called for a temporary departure from the normal balance between executive and legislative authority. eighty-four years later, the temporary departure has produced the following reality. visitors to utah. >> leaves office displayed to piles of paper. one is a few inches of tall. it contains about 800 pages, it's all the laws congress passed in a particular year. the other file is 11 feet tall and contains 80000 pages. those pages contain all the regulations proposed and adopted in one year by executive agencies. logically, executive power is secondary, having as its defining, the execution of the results of the legislature's primary power. until the late 1920s, the election of the president was indirect. he was elected
madison successor, james monroe totally subscribe to the doctor and of supremacy, adding to the idea that they existed to execute the will of others and that he was utterly silent as president on the burning issue of his day, the admission of misery to the union and the status of slavery in louisiana territory. however, in his 1933 inaugural address, franklin roosevelt called for a temporary departure from the normal balance between executive and legislative authority. eighty-four years later,...
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george washington, thomas jefferson, james madison, and james monroe all grew hemp. today, however, industrial hemp is largely illegal for widespread production because the controlled substances act does not make the distinction between hemp and marijuana. both varieties of the canny bass plant but -- cannabis plant but that's it ends. it only has minuscule amounts of p.s.c. 2004, congress began to recognize the differences when it passed the 2014 farm bill which included language to allow industrial hemp pilot programs. today more than 30 states have enacted laws to legalize industrial hemp for research or commercial purposes. i was proud to lead the effort to create a hemp program in kentucky has been successful. r. comber: now we need to -- comer: now we need to take the step. i look forward to continuing the work of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to advance legislation to make industrial hemp a legal crop for the farmers of kentucky and across the united states step. i look forward to continuing the work of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to of
george washington, thomas jefferson, james madison, and james monroe all grew hemp. today, however, industrial hemp is largely illegal for widespread production because the controlled substances act does not make the distinction between hemp and marijuana. both varieties of the canny bass plant but -- cannabis plant but that's it ends. it only has minuscule amounts of p.s.c. 2004, congress began to recognize the differences when it passed the 2014 farm bill which included language to allow...
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which three presidents died on july 4th the answer, john adams, thomas jefferson, and james monroe. >ack to "squawk box" this morning a couple retail stocks to watch this morning shares of pier one tumbling after the retailer announced a major miss a full $12 million short of expectations and stamples is going private, being bought by sycamore partners for $6.9 million. it's the largest leveraged buyout this year i wish we could show a stock chart of staples for a longer period, because they're almost getting it on sale it's a bit of a discount, if you know what i mean it's been a long, sort of tortured story becky? >> as if retail wasn't having a hard enough year, the trump administration budget proposes big cuts to s.n.a.p. or the food stamp program sale a number of retailers, grocers, and other stores count on. courtney reagan joins us with a look at how the retailers could be hit by this >> the retailers are relieved the tax adjustment may be off the table. but the budget includes a bigger ten-year $190 billion cut to the food stamp benefits, and that should make food-selling reta
which three presidents died on july 4th the answer, john adams, thomas jefferson, and james monroe. >ack to "squawk box" this morning a couple retail stocks to watch this morning shares of pier one tumbling after the retailer announced a major miss a full $12 million short of expectations and stamples is going private, being bought by sycamore partners for $6.9 million. it's the largest leveraged buyout this year i wish we could show a stock chart of staples for a longer period,...
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james comey. presents go, not exactly marilyn monroe singing to jfk.ut i like to imagine trump found out about this just as sean spicer was handing him his birthday present. [ laughter ] the president had an interesting lunch yesterday with republican senators where he had some surprisingly strong criticism of the republican health care bill, the american health care act. he called the bill mean, cold-hearted, and a son of a bitch. which he knows a bill's a piece of legislation and not a person named -- he does know it's not bill cosby or bill o'reilly, right? it came as quite a surprise because publicly at the time it was passed he said the bill was a great plan incredibly well crafted. now he says it's a son of a bitch. those three ghosts that visit in the middle of the night must have made a very convincing case. dennis rodman, a former celebrity apprentice, is spreading diplomacy and who ow he's on a trip there today. he went bowl and on a visit to the zoo. that's not a diplomatic visit. that's what you do with your dad on the weekend after your pa
james comey. presents go, not exactly marilyn monroe singing to jfk.ut i like to imagine trump found out about this just as sean spicer was handing him his birthday present. [ laughter ] the president had an interesting lunch yesterday with republican senators where he had some surprisingly strong criticism of the republican health care bill, the american health care act. he called the bill mean, cold-hearted, and a son of a bitch. which he knows a bill's a piece of legislation and not a person...
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james hodgkinson's social media presence and his motives. investigators believe he had been living out of his car near the area of east monroe street in alexandriaince march. we don't yet know why he left illinois. his facebook page says he worked as a home inspector. he was also active on anti-republican sites. associated press reports he resisting police and drunken driving in the 90's and an an arrest for battery in 2006. his hometown newspaper said he had written in several times angry about republicans and tax policies. it shocked people in the community of alexandria. a neighborhood bar employee said he came in often talked about golf and real estate but not politics or guns. former alexandria mayor bill yule said he would see him often at the ymca working on his laptop and heard that he was actually at the ymca wednesday morning but left shortly before the shooting. also want to let you know today that the fbi is still looking for information on james hodgkinson. they've put out a flier, it looks like a wanted poster but it really is that they're wanting information on him and telling everyone if they know this guy, have had any contact w
james hodgkinson's social media presence and his motives. investigators believe he had been living out of his car near the area of east monroe street in alexandriaince march. we don't yet know why he left illinois. his facebook page says he worked as a home inspector. he was also active on anti-republican sites. associated press reports he resisting police and drunken driving in the 90's and an an arrest for battery in 2006. his hometown newspaper said he had written in several times angry...
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james hodgkinson. >>> a dog that went missing during the alexandria congressional shooting has been found. look, that's daphne, a pointer mix. she was located this morning. she was playing at the dog monroen delray when the shooting broke out. the animal welfare league of alexandria helped look for her and she is back at home and in good health. >>> disappointed to till we have another incident of a noose being found in our area. and before i bring you the details about that, i want to take you through the thought process inside of our daily news editorial meeting. a few of our news producers wondered if we should continue to report these incidents. one side of the argument could be made that by reporting on these incidents, we are giving publicity to the people who are carrying out these acts of hate. others, though, say that if we don't report on these incidents, we are covering them up. but let us know what you think. log onto wusa9.com/vote or use our news app because we want your opinion and we are going to bring you the results of that poll a little bit later in our broadcast. >>> now to today's incident, that noose was found this morning hanging from a tree at the apartment comple
james hodgkinson. >>> a dog that went missing during the alexandria congressional shooting has been found. look, that's daphne, a pointer mix. she was located this morning. she was playing at the dog monroen delray when the shooting broke out. the animal welfare league of alexandria helped look for her and she is back at home and in good health. >>> disappointed to till we have another incident of a noose being found in our area. and before i bring you the details about that,...
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james hodgkinson as pat collins has been reporting. he had been in the alexandria area for months and the fbi special agent in charge just told us eeld been living out of that white van along monroe avenue here. they want to hear from anybody whose had interactions with him over the past few months. alexandria police chief offering a few new did he tails about that gun battle that took place. he called it combat. law enforcement source is telling me that this is how it initially directed his gunfire at those on the baseball field. the capitol police officers returned gunfire. that's when one of them was wounded. the gunman then took shelter behind the concession stand that's ad jas enterto that fall field. then alexandria police officers pulled up and that's when they too were able to open fire on this gunman. in this briefing law enforcement officials refusing to comment on any possible motive but the folks in this neighborhood and those who witness this attack, they think it was very targeted. morning routines on a baseball field inside a ymca turned into a seen of chaos when a gunman started shooting. the weapon an assault rifle. >> it was like boom, boom, boom for like the fi
james hodgkinson as pat collins has been reporting. he had been in the alexandria area for months and the fbi special agent in charge just told us eeld been living out of that white van along monroe avenue here. they want to hear from anybody whose had interactions with him over the past few months. alexandria police chief offering a few new did he tails about that gun battle that took place. he called it combat. law enforcement source is telling me that this is how it initially directed his...
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james comey that's happened on thursday at 10:00 a.m. we'll be showing that live. we'll be talking a lot more about that as the week goes on. back to the phone, eli waiting in monroe, new york, independent. your thoughts on president trump's response to the london attacks. caller: yes, president trump was elected only for one reason. he was not a politician. the reason he was elected because he says things as it is. i don't think ideologically that he's a republican, conservative or a democrat. he wants to go in a practical way. he's not politically correct. the problem regarding europe and here in the united states, it's nothing but immigration problem. you have to control who is coming into this nation. the police look at france and great britain, there are entire neighborhoods that the police cannot go in because it's controlled by government within a government. there are neighborhoods in france that they are not allowed. what president trump is saying, dance around the circle, hide the truth, the truth of the matter is, immigration is the problem. you have to control who's coming into your country. host: where do you go to get the truth when you listen to tru
james comey that's happened on thursday at 10:00 a.m. we'll be showing that live. we'll be talking a lot more about that as the week goes on. back to the phone, eli waiting in monroe, new york, independent. your thoughts on president trump's response to the london attacks. caller: yes, president trump was elected only for one reason. he was not a politician. the reason he was elected because he says things as it is. i don't think ideologically that he's a republican, conservative or a democrat....
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james hodgkinson's social media presence and motives. inst had been living out of his car near the area of east monroe street in alexandria since march. his facebook page says he work as home inspector. he was also active on anti republican sites. the ap reports he had prior arrests for resisting police and arrest for battery in 2006 his hometown newspaper says he written in several times angry about republicans and tax policies. the shooting shocked people here who had gotten to know him briefly in the del ray neighborhood. a neighborhood bar employee said he came in often talked about golf and real estate but not politics or guns. former alexandria mayor bill y yule said he'd see him at the ymca working on his laptop. >> it's my understanding that he in the y long. exited about 7:00 o'clock and next thing you know folks heard gunfire. >> reporter: and also, the f. exact al wanted poster but they want information on mr. hodgkinson as they put out some personal information there asking anyone who may have come across him either here in alexandria, in illinois, anywhere in between, even online, on social media, to please get in contact
james hodgkinson's social media presence and motives. inst had been living out of his car near the area of east monroe street in alexandria since march. his facebook page says he work as home inspector. he was also active on anti republican sites. the ap reports he had prior arrests for resisting police and arrest for battery in 2006 his hometown newspaper says he written in several times angry about republicans and tax policies. the shooting shocked people here who had gotten to know him...
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and as you mentioned fbi now probing into james hodgkinson's social media investigators believe that he had be living out of his car near the area of east monroeeet in alexandria since march. but we still don't know why he left illinois. his facebook page says he work as home inspector. he was also active on anti republican sights. ap reports he had prior arrests for resisting police and drunken driving in the '90's and arrest for battery in 2006 his hometown newspaper said he had several times angry about republicans and tack policies. the shooting shocked people who got to know him briefly here in the del ray neighborhood. neighborhood bar employee said he came in often. talk about golf and real estate but not about politics and guns and former alexandria mayor bill yule said he would see him at the ymca working on his laptop and apparently hodgkinson was at the wmca yesterday shortly before 7:00 a.m. when then the shooting began. back out here live, the wmca also just down here on the street, and so it wasn't very far from there over to the ballpark. so right where you see that black vehicle that's sort of the main entrance to simpson field
and as you mentioned fbi now probing into james hodgkinson's social media investigators believe that he had be living out of his car near the area of east monroeeet in alexandria since march. but we still don't know why he left illinois. his facebook page says he work as home inspector. he was also active on anti republican sights. ap reports he had prior arrests for resisting police and drunken driving in the '90's and arrest for battery in 2006 his hometown newspaper said he had several times...
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james hodgkinson. >> now they're trying to piece together a motive for the attack. fox5's melanie alnwick is live with more on this from alexandria. good morning, mel. >> reporter:. >> reporter: good morning and monroenue here still shut down from where i'm standing at dewitt to route one many people in this neighborhood very much would like to see things get back to normal, though clearly they are very rattled by the events of this week and we are learning that the shooter's wife says her husband told her he was going to washington in march to change the tax brackets. it was another full day of investigation out at simpson stadium field yesterday the fbi and atf collecting evidence, documenting thingsing from wednesday's terrifying capitol police say they believe that james hodgkinson did have his guns legally. a 9-millimeter handgun and a rifle. they also looked inside this white van that hodgkinson apparently had been living out of since march. investigators confiscated a computer, a camera and a cell phone. they continued to look into his social media activities. his estranged wife spoke to the media yesterday. >> i just don't know what to tell you people. i had no idea this was going to happen.
james hodgkinson. >> now they're trying to piece together a motive for the attack. fox5's melanie alnwick is live with more on this from alexandria. good morning, mel. >> reporter:. >> reporter: good morning and monroenue here still shut down from where i'm standing at dewitt to route one many people in this neighborhood very much would like to see things get back to normal, though clearly they are very rattled by the events of this week and we are learning that the shooter's...