jeh johnson reiterate -- there was a democrat or republican who took issue with when jeh johnson said plain and simple it was russia behind the hack. you spent 15 years at the cia. when you hear that non-answer from the white house, what do you make of it? >> part of it is the dysfunctional nature of washington, the administration the way that messages get out. at the end of the day, did russia meddle? jeh johnson was saying what everybody knows. of course they did. have they been doing this for generation s generations? yes. cyberspace is where they play now. going back to david, the inability to separate this idea of russian meddling from obstruction of justice or collusion. it's not just the trump administration's problem there. that's because we have taken all these issues and smooshed them together. we're doing what happens in washington. every investigation that happens -- i argue that that's the place where investigations go to die. we're going to see this again. we have how many investigations, judiciary -- >> let's go with a rounded out five. >> an investigation has to be foc

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but jeh johnson seemed concerned that this 11-year-old video made it to the front pages. but those who were covering the campaign at that time. it was pretty clear that all of this talk about russian interference in the election were not breaking through. i think people were not really engaged on it in part because it was turned into a partisan issue from the very beginning. >> and jeh johnson said that it didn't matter. >> they were actually concerned about the partisan dynamics of the election overall and how their actions would be viewed in that frame. and at the time, i think there was a lot of talk about russia and all of it was considered to be partisan. >> and to the point, you're president, you've been president for five months, no one's going to take the president away. they celebrated in 2016. including probing into state election, of the database, seeing if there's some way to get in. no one has put forth one ounce of evidence that they changed the outcome of the election. but what's clear is that in 2016 they tried with the warning they're going to try it agai

so even the states that want assistant are not getting it. >> how does jeh johnson's testimony change the probe. >> what it does shed light on is that this is not just banks, it is personal investigation, we do not have a national kpre s comprehensive -- >> do they just not understand it, they don't know thousand protect against it? do they not really believe it's as big of a threat as it is. >> it is all of those. people view this as an i.t. problem, and it's not just an i.t. problem, it's all aspects of the company. it's training employees, when to look for the e-mails that are very difficult to understand and find unless you have been trained properly. there is a whole series of things that can be done, it has to start with the federal level. >> they have to make it an issue and bang the drum on it? >> it is a national problem, not something that states can deal with themselves. you have the same intrance agendas they think that there is something wrong with the fall government getting involved. >> bob mueller was on the hill today talking about it. >> we heard from chuck grassley

has the white house responded to jeh johnson's testimony? >> reporter: no, and wolf i think this is the bizarre contradiction with this president, on one hand, he went all across the country insisting the election was rigged, on the other hand as a president, he's been very reluctant to talk about russia's influence in the 2016 election, in fact sean spicer was asked yesterday whether the president does believe that russia is interfered in our election, this is what he said. >> just plainly a yes or no answer, does president trump believe that russia interfered in the 2016 elections? >> i have not talked to the president about those things. >> reporter: sort of the question of whether russia meddled in the u.s. election, which intelligence agencies agree on gets melded in on the question of collusion between russians and the trump campaign, so we really don't get a straight answer from the white house on any of this stuff, wolf. >> manu, the special counsel is meeting with the senate judiciary leadership, what can you tell us about that? >>

you her jeh johnson say plain and simple that is what they did. do you believe our voting system is at risk? let's go to janet and washington, a democrat. go ahead. i think it was rigged. you can't trust putin. you could never trust russia. you can't trust trump because he is not done things he promised concerning medicare/medicaid. it is embarrassing. it is humiliating the way these millionaire/billionaires are getting away with lower taxes when there are people in poverty that are poor. host: let's stick to the voting system. you said it was rigged. what do you think should be done for 2020? more thanthink it was just trump. i know for a fact that when bush ran, jeb bush through a democrat votes. when reagan ran for president, they went out and paid people $100 to vote for him. you don't think it is just russians or foreign governments, you think the whole system is rigged internally by our government? caller: have done illegal things to get president. i don't put it past trump. the way it sounds, i watched the whole thing with these once that w

joining me to discuss the dnc reaction to jeh johnson's offer to help after the russian cyberattacks,on's assertion there's no evidence russia changed votes in our election. chris farrell, director of investigations and research at judicial watch. good to have you here. >> hi, lou. lou: does that sound to you like the man running the department of homeland security speaking to the united states congress about a national security issue, a critical one and incursion into the democratic party servers and just accepting the rejection by of all people, debbie wasserman schultz? >> you have to remember that jeh johnson is the guy who ran around for a number of years saying that the islamic state was not islamic. so he pulls that off with a straight face and people applaud when he says, it so the fact he turns around and says, hey, look, we know we have hostile foreign actors, foreign intelligence services, attempting to penetrate political party's operations through information technology and doesn't do anything or relies on the fbi to say, well, crowd strike has got it, and, of course, cro

jeh johnson appeared before the committee.obbled bipartisan mistrust makers the latest is the congressional reporter from capitol hill. help us understand what this committee is looking at. when you look at it with the senate intelligence committee, what is the mandate and the purview of the investigation? >> the house intelligence committee is to find out if there is russian collusion, any trump team collusion or interference. jeh johnson hearing was met with some ambivalence as more just for show and something democrats demanded to indicated this committee is doing a lot more than it is. david: what is the holdup? why isn't this committee do more? why has this committee not done that? billy house: democrats, it is a committee that has been a focus, publicly on this topic for january but the yet to depose behind closed doors one witness compared to the house committee that is interviewed behind closed doors at least 30 witnesses. the house committee is an inner turmoil over which witnesses to edit, how soon to do them democra

this morning tweeting former homeland security adviser jeh johnson is the latest top intelligence official to state there was no grand scheme between trump and russia.

that's what we understand jeh johnson is there to convey. it will be interesting to see how it plays out on camera because sometimes those hearings give us really memorable moments that can change the dynamic. and the president will on wednesday also be traveling to iowa for a campaign event. so we'll have to see if his expanded legal team exerts any influence over him about tweeting about these kinds of things. we'll have to see how that plays out. >> i wouldn't hold my breath on that one. who knew what and when. thank you so much, kelly o'donnell. let's bring in the chief white house correspondent at the "washington journal" and the author of "shattered: inside hillary clinton's doomed campaign." erin, what do you make of jay sekulow out this morning, obviously at the behest of the white house, directing contradicting the president? >> i'm sure it's the legal team that wanted jay sekulow to make those comments because everybody jumped on the president's tweet saying that he is under investigation, and obviously they were saying, well, this

but i asked the question inartfully of jeh johnson.answered the way he did, it very easily could have been going to the third part of that tranche, which there has been public reporting on as opposed to the first two. i would say blame me for a bad question, and jeh johnson for a vague answer. >> but the bottom line is, you're not taking a definitive one way or the other, because it was too broad? >> i can't -- we are so early on in the investigatory process. we have interviewed less than a tenth of the witnesses that we're going to want to end up interviewing. i hope nobody was drawing any conclusions from anything. that's what you do at the end of the investigation, not in the front of it. >> chairman dpoudy, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> yes, ma'am. thank you. >>> up-front next, no tapes, no problems, for jeanne moos. roooooaaar!!! want our whole house to be filled with entertainment. easy boy! but we don't want annual contracts and hardware. you scoundrel! we just want to stream live tv. and we want it for 10 dollars a mont

>> well, the president has said previously and we've got confirmation now from jeh johnson from adam schiff, jim coats, jim comey, admiral rogers, no evidence of collusion and this doesn't have an impact on the end result. it's important to show no nexus has been proving between what russia or any other foreign government tried to do and the actual election result. the only person making that case prominently is hillary clinton and you have everything saying no nexus. not a single vote changed and we stand by that. we know donald trump won fairly and squarely, 360 electoral votes, no interference at all. >> we know that as well. what about the three dozen high-level officials that say they can connect president putin with giving instructions to hack the dnc computers and to plant fake stories? what is the current white house doing about this? >> well, alisyn, the president has said previously, and he stands by that, particularly as president-elect, that he would be concerned about anybody interfering in our democracy. we saw a lot of people interfering with our democracy saying he co

the allegations, symone, just to make it clear, that jeh johnson did address this.ve reasons for why the administration decided to pause. they didn't want to compromise sources and methods, didn't want to come moyes apromise and show during the election. on the dnc side he said he found out late in the game that the fbi weren't cooperating. your response, symone. >> former chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz has come out and said that is not true, that the dnc was actively combating this and other issues, they actively had contracted with crowd strike to make sure that they were taking all the precautions they could take. could the dnc have done more? absolutely. to say the dnc sat back and did nothing, to assert the obama administration did nothing is not true. what we should be concerned about is with the trump administration. >> ben, this is in the new. the president didn't just learn that the obama administration knew about this, and if he did, that's the most frightening thing i've heard in quite some time. this was reported at the time, even jay johnson, the t

jeh johnson suggested the dnc was not responsive to offers of help from dhs.reluctant to come forward sooner and perhaps more clearly because of political ramifications. donald trump saying the election was rigged and he was nervous about how he would be received politically. do you think in retrospect that was a smart move, letting politics get in the way of national security? >> i think there were -- they didn't fully connect all of the dots, even though jeh johnson and director clapper i believe on october 7 put out a letter saying that there was this possible russian intervention. but i don't think the intelligence community fully connected all the dots until after the election. >> senator, there's a deadline on friday given to the president to produce whatever recordings exist from the white house, recordings perhaps of james comey, the white house has said, or the president through his lawyer said it is possible he might give the answer this week. as you sit here this week, do you know if these tapes exist? >> i don't have the slightest idea. it is, agai

but back on the billy bush day, it wasn't jeh johnson. >> it was jeh johnson. we had that information earlier that day. we had all those assessments being reported but we can't impose sanctions. >> i'm not going to argue about the news because i respect the free press. >> what do you expect the media to do in retrospect when we did report it when it's up to the administration to push back and fight for the country? we report the information. >> the prz see that the sanctions removed. but as far as the media, you look at the percentage of coverage with the win i bag owe conversation and the conversation with jeh johnson and i'll bet you it's 100-1. >> take care. thank for coming on. >> sure. take care. >> coming up i'll going to spack with ben gelles. ...explosive. but the true secret to his perfection... was a heart, twice the size of an average horse. at crowne plaza we know business travel isn't just business. there's this. 'a bit of this. why not? your hotel should make it easy to do all the things you do. which is what we do. crowne plaza. we're all busines

judiciary committee, if anybody heard your laugh, it was you laughing and you were laughing because jeh johnson did not say anything about there not being any collusion and president trump tweeted something not true about what johnson said. tell people why you're laughing about that. >> of course. you know, just, of course the president is going to claim something that is completely hollow and false. that's what he does. so i just -- i laugh a lot. >> you're a laugher, you enjoy laughing. i want to ask you about dni coates and rogers, they told investigators, cnn's reporting that president trump did suggest that they stayed publicly that there was no collusion, but they say they did not feel that the president was ordering them to dismiss the probe, does that mean anything in terms of whether or not this is obstruction of justice? >> well i just heard that it doesn't, i mean, how they felt it was what the president's intent was. and i guess if he's saying he's -- you know, he's -- this is what happened in watergate, right? that they were talking -- they were just talking about telling the cia t

but at the hearing with jeh johnson who served as president obama's homeland security chief. he talked about a frustration he had there wasn't a sense of greater outrage in real time in 2016. he outlined the series of public statements he made warning about this, raising concerns about this. he also talked about when the hacking occurred at the democratic national committee, remember that was a big part of the russian success story when it came to cyber security, being able to penetrate the sort of brain trust of the democratic party in the height of the campaign year. jeh johnson was frustrated that the dnc had its own firm to try to assist them with their cyber problem but would not allow in the department of homeland xo t security. from a democratic administration wanting to come in to assist them. he was frustrated about that. at the same time, frustrated that the general public, which we all remember being caught up in the day to day campaign life of 2016 and all of the very heated issues and sort of technicolor aspects of the campaign trail that were obviously of great

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jeh johnson talking about this frustrations. adam schiff in his questions of jeh johnson really dig in, say, come on. why wasn't more done? you saw this? >> i was going to say that you saw the anger and frustration that was directed at jeh johnson during that, during that hearing. i think it was notable, because democrats are frustrated that the obama administration didn't do -- didn't do anything, but didn't do enough to address this until it was too late and didn't realize there was -- it said in the article -- didn't realize how devastating this actually was until trump actually one pap cold comfort coming out now to democrats. i have to say, one of the things that struck me this morning, listening to interview with alisyn and kellyanne conway. first question asked about this story and the first thing kellyanne said was, we didn't do it. there was no collusion. we had nothing -- we aren't a part of this. and that is also striking. very much what we heard from this administration, but it's not about what russia did. it's, agai

clint, interesting comment from jeh johnson, addressing a question from jay gowdy.y people knew so much about the russians trying to meddle in the election last year, was it not our right, as americans, without giving us the whole story, to tell us something about it? listen to jeh johnson. >> so what more could we have done, should we have done before the election? >> in retrospect, it would have been easy for me to say i should have bought a sleeping bag and camped in and out front of the dnc in late summer, with the benefit of hindsight. i can tell you for certain that in the late summer/fall i was very concerned about what i was seeing. this was on my front burner all throughout the pre-election period in august, september, october and early november to encourage the states to come in and seek our assistance. >> so, clint, as a former fbi agent, as a security analyst, i know you can hold two thoughts in your mind at the same time. >> right. >> whether or not this caused donald trump to win is a separate issue from the fact that someone everybody thinks -- everyb

i watch jeh johnson on c-span this week. i watched the whole thing.e said he had all this evidence of the hacking going on and the day he released his report it that the access hollywood tapes came out. the media swallow that up and gave very little attention the hacking. the other fact is there voting machines could not be hacked, they are not attached to the internet. said- jeh johnson also that they went to the dnc and told them that they have potential of being hacked and the rnc but the dnc would not turn their super over. everybody knew hillary was going to win and the leverage was to go to and if hillary won. he had access to of the stuff that all the stuff she had. he had access to her server and everything is destined did. the uranium one deal needs to be looked into. he the first week in office took the anti-ballistic missile thing out of poland. for no reason. he was helping russia. that gave russia leverage over data. withe hot mike thing obama. bill clinton got paid $500,000 from moscow. and another cawley said podesta was tied up in this

this morning tweeting former homeland security adviser jeh johnson is the latest top intelligence officialwas no grand scheme between trump and russia. but what secretary johnson actually said was he had not heard anything beyond what the house committee has seen and heard. and he left office, of course, january 20th. joining me is michael leiter, the former director of national counterterrorism and understand n nbc news national security analyst. where do we stand on the whole russia collusion investigation and what mueller is probably doing behind the scenes as he briefs both judiciary and intelligence to try to keep lanes deconflicted? >> contrary to what the president said, i don't think jeh johnson broke any new ground. he said what fundamentally every obama official has said, that at the time that they left, january 21st, they had not seen evidence of that collusion. no change in the story there. but what we see, i think, is a good professional investigation, unsurprisingly, going forward for bob mueller, which will focus on the collusion, but just as much now the obstruction of just

[inaudible conversations] >> dhs secretary jeh johnson is testifying before the senate intelligence committee on russian hacking in u.s. elections. live coverage just getting underway on our companion network, c-span 3. we should let you know that president trump is on the road today. he is in cedar rapids, iowa, which is the state he won in november. live coverage when it gets underway.

tweet number one, former home and security adviser jeh johnson is the latest top intelligence official to state there was no grand scheme between trump and russia. secretary johnson. >> well he spelled my name right and as we speak i am sure there are members of the press comparing the tweets to what i actually said yesterday in my testimony which was public and i will leave that to journalists. let's go ahead and read two and three and i love a product comment or a cynic is a journalist who was the hearing my impression until me i'm wrong you did not say in any way shape or form that there was no grand scheme between trump and russia. is that right? >> my testimony speaks for itself. i'm not going to go down that road. read the other two and i'll have a broader comment. >> the next tweet by the way of her shows working so hard on the 2016 election that happened during the obama -- why didn't they stop them? >> look, here's my point. you can read the third one too but here's my point. there is a much broader issue here that we as a government need to address beyond whether the latest t

>> jeh johnson is a very smart, very confident person. i sent him an email after his testimony is saying very impressive testimony. he came in there. back in january, when this first came up, wait a second, does anybody really believe that the obama intelligence system -- the obama homeland security system and the obama fbi system were so stupid that for six months, the russians were doing something and they didn't notice? jeh johnson said i was in charge. none of this happened. it really punctures the russian balloon and makes it trivial. here's the problem. >> sean: by the way, mr. speaker, if i worked for president trump and his campaign and i thought the russians had information that would expose hillary for being a liar, and i said can you release that, is that a crime? >> it's not a crime but you wouldn't have said it directly with the russians. >> sean: i don't have contact with them. you are absolutely right. >> if they have anything, feel free to let it go. you have to assume the russian ambassadors watch tv. here's the deeper po

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. >> jeh johnson testifies about russian attempts to influence the 2016 u.s. election. after that, andrew mccabe on the fiscal year 20 15 budget proposal. congressman steve cohen on the russian investigation and his call for investigating eric trump's charity. former homeland security secretary jeh johnson appeared in a hearing for russian interference in the u.s. 2016 election. russian president vladimir putin -- they also discussed the rational for designating u.s. election systems is critical infrastructure in early january 2017. this hearing is 2.5 hours.

security chief jeh johnson says it would have been in his words unforgivable not to alert the americanc ahead of the 2016 election that the russians hacked democratic email systems. testifying before the house intelligence committee today, johnson also said he was not happy that he learned about the hacking well after it occurred. to two years, brexit will dominate theresa may's agenda. outline may'sh ii legislative priorities in her annual speech to lawmakers. the government plans eight in new laws to ease the uk's withdraw from the european union. the u.k. government has bought 68 new apartments to re-house people made homeless by the tower fire in london. aresocial housing units currently being built and due to be completed next month. at least 79 people were killed after the blaze broke out at the 24 story tower. global news 24 hours a day powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. this is bloomberg. joe: "what'd you miss?" senate republicans are expected to unveil their health care bill tomorrow. senate democratic leader chuck schumer address co

jeh johnson said they rejected assistance offered by the dhs and the ghi.rprised by that? >> i'm actually disputing it somewhat because i talked to debra wasserman schultz after the hearing, and she basically said no one came to her. there was a lower level staffer who was contacted and that was the extent of it. i think what we've learned from the testimony today is that we acted very late in the game. the first real meeting that jeh johnson had was in august to all of the states, and he didn't say anything more than there may be hackers out there you should be aware of. we knew it was russia, or we were very certain that it was likely russia, and even when he offered all the tools that the department of homeland security had available, only 33 states took advantage of them. so 17 states were out there bare naked in terms of being potentially impacted by the russian hacks. there's a lot we have to do. >> i just wanted to ask you, you say you want to dispute it, but deborah wasserman schultz said they did reach out to the dnc, they just didn't reach out to

here's what she had to say and what jeh johnson said about the topic on msnbc. watch. >> the report is new and we'll discuss it later but he's been very clear on the record that he believes in any type of numbers of measures to make sure that democracy flourishing. >> and the current president through his rhetoric is sending signals this is something that will be tolerated. >> i have not heard from president trump a strong statement of condemnation about the russian behavior and about what all of his intelligence community is telling him happened last year. >> and johnson is right. the president hasn't given a full-throated denunciation of russia's meddling in last year's election. and as i said, asked repeatedly what the white house plans to do or what the administration is working on to prevent this sort of incursion in the future, you don't get a lot of answers. kellyanne conway this morning talked about the president's voter integrity commission. we heard similar from deputy press secretary sarah huckabee, very different from this idea of blocking russia fro

today jeh johnson reaffirmed what many of us believe and i think the country believes, which is thatered with our 2016 elections. and as he said, this was at the direction of the russian government and vladimir putin. so at this point, it's pretty clear that that's exactly what happened. >> is the malpractice here in your view the fact that the white house is not acting like this is a crisis afoot and not acting to preserve and protect the next presidential election perhaps? >> yeah. what's especially disturbing is that president trump and the white house and even many leaders in the congress still refuse to call it what it was, which was russian interference, and really to start to take real action against the russian government to make sure that we send a clear signal to russia and other countries who would interfere with our elections in 2018, 2020, or beyond. for example, brian, i asked secretary johnson a direct question, which is does he know of any law that sets up any basic cybersecurity requirement to protect our voting systems. and his plain answer was no. that needs to cha

that, of course, was former homeland security secretary jeh johnson today, testifying on russia to theigence committee at the same time, the senate intelligence committee was holding its own hearing on russian election interference with multiple officials and scholars on cyber security, counter intelligence, election integrity and the like. here now a sampling of the sobering testimony from both of today's hearings. >> in 2016, the russian government at the direction of vladimir putin himself orange straighted cyber attacks on our nation for the purpose of influencing our election. that is a fact plain and simple. >> my question for you, sir, just to be abundantly clear, will the russians be back? >> i think we have to assume for all the reasons that have been discussed here that the russians will back and possibly other state actors and possibly other bad cyber actors. >> fair to assume you are concerned if not worried about '16 and '18 elections and all others going forward? >> yes. >> to the best of the fbi's knowledge, have they conducted covert influence in prior election campaign

i heard jeh johnson say, hey, we came out with a statement but that "access hollywood" tape took allgency from democrats now, isn't it a fair point for the obama administration to say for whatever their reasons, they did not carry the ball all the way that the democrats seem to be saying it needed to be carried now. fair point? >> it was treated like a cyber attack and our focus was what the russians were intending to do to our electoral systems. we focused working on state and local governments to better prepare systeming and jeh johnson did talk about that quite a bit last week. the piece i was trying to touch on was the propaganda impact is still something we don't know a lot about. >> i got you. >> if you're looking at europe, they're doing a lot to address this that's something we should be doing here. in hindsight, that's something we should have thought more about at the time. we followed the book. obviously, the book, perhaps, should be thrown out. this was an unprecedented attack. it changes how we should approach things moving forward. >> when you follow a book that maybe s

. >> congressman schiff pressing jeh johnson on why the administration took so long for the intelligence to say anything about the russian hacking. joining me now is clint watts, on the joint terrorism task force, an nbc national security analyst, happily for us. thank you for being with us. in tracking this hearing today, there was a lot of back and forth about why they didn't say something sooner. and there seems to be some suggestion by some, even some democrats, that it was because frankly the white house thought that hillary clinton was going to win and didn't want to take on all the conspiracy theories that were spinning out of the -- out of the republican candidate donald trump and the republican campaign. >> right. if they had gone forward and brought this out to the public in a more robust way, they fear that they would likely be confirming the narrative of those being put out by two entities, russia was promoting this theme, the meddling and the voter roles was to create the impression that the election might be rigged, that there could be voter fraud. that's why they targeted

our next step is next wednesday to have jeh johnson in for an open public hearing.ctor of the department of homeland security. mostly we'll be talking about the infrastructure of elections, networks throughout the country and what the russians attempted but evidently failed to do in the last election cycle in that regard. we also have agreed to a witness list and are beginning our work in earnest in the house permanent select committee on intelligence. >> but very quickly, having secured his testimony, michael cohen's i'm speaking of, how much light do you expect to him to shed on russia's meddling considering his ties to trump? >> tbd. the fact of the matter is you never know what these people will say until they come before you and you have the opportunity to ask questions. sometimes there are no surprises, sometimes it's really boring, and sometimes, frankly, it knocks your socks off. exhibit a, march 20, director jim comey coming in and announcing that the fbi was in fact investigating the circumstance. as we heard or read reported this week, in all likelihood t

former homeland security advisor jeh johnson is the latest top intelligence official to state there was no grand scheme between trump and russia. secretary johnson. [laughter] jeh: well, he spelled my name right. and as we speak, i'm sure there are members of the press comparing the tweet to what i actually said yesterday. in my testimony. which was public. and i will leave that to journalists. read two and three and i'll have a broader comment. josh: as a journalist, to watch that hearing, it was my impression that you did not state in any way, shape or form that there was no grand scheme between trump and russia. is that right? jeh: my testimony speaks for itself. i'm not going to -- i'm not going to go down that road. readed other two and i have a broader comment. josh: ok. next tweet. by the way, if russia was working so hard on the 2016 election, it all took place during the obamaed a minute. why didn't they stop them -- obama administration. why didn't they stop them? jeh: here's my point. you can read the third one too. but here's my point. there's a much broader issue here, that

cia director john brennan and two former secretaries of homeland security michael cherthoff and jeh johnson among many others. we will debate international trade and the strength of our military, cyber security, the role of nato and the renewal of the trans atlantic alliances, expansion of democracy and human rights and other important topics. we will also have a chance to discuss how the executive and legislative branches of government can work in unison to carry out a coherent national security strategy. we can all be proud of the party we belong to. the partisanship must end at our water's edge. we are americans first, and that is what this forum is all about. now, i would like to introduce our first guest, a good friend of mine, the secretary of homeland security, john kelly. if there's anyone here who understands why we must work together to defeat common threats, it is our current secretary of homeland security. secretary kelly has dedicated his entire career to the safety and security of the american people. as a marine he served in leadership positions in europe, iraq, the pentagon

>> yes. >> that is former homeland security secretary, jeh johnson, testifying earlier this week beforery, good to see you this morning. >> good morning. the administration source, live and in person. >> glad to have you. >> we'll ask you about your testimony in a minute, but we want to talk about the story that was just broken by "the washington post," greg miller joining us a few minutes ago, talking about the obama administration's response to cyber attacks from the russian government's intrusion into our election process. and that the obama administration decided it was better not to put its thumb on the scale, not to retaliate in an effective way. can you confirm that? >> well, greg is right in the following respect. the decision to make attribution on october 7th was a very big decision. because we were in the midst of a very overheated campaign with one of the candidates saying the result is going to be rigged. but at the end of the day, after a lot of consideration, we decided that we had to tell the american voting public, the american public, what we knew was going on, before

. >> reporter: in front of the house intelligence committee former homeland security secretary jeh johnsoning russia attacked american democracy when it meddled in the 2016 presidential election. adding it failed to change the outcome. >> i know of no evidence that, through cyber intrusions, votes were altered or suppressed in some way. >> reporter: in a separate senate hearing dhs officials confirming russian hackers scammed an alarming number of voter databases across the country. >> as of right now we have evidence of 21 election-related systems that were targeted. >> reporter: she would not identify which states were compromised but arizona and illinois confirmed their voter information was stolen. >> what are the dangers of manipulation of voter registration databases? particularly if it isn't apparent until election day. >> if voters are removed from the registration database and show up on election day, it is going to cause problems. >> reporter: for the second day in a row special council robert mueller on capitol hill assuring everyone there is no conflict of interest in any of th

former homeland security adviser jeh johnson is the latest top intelligence official to state there was no grant scheme between trump and russia. secretary johnson? >> uh, well, he spelled my name right. and, you know, as we speak i am sure there are members of the press comparing the tweet to what i actually said in my testimony yesterday which is public, and i will leave that to journalists. let's go ahead and read two and three and i'll have a broader comment. >> as a journalist who watched that hearing, it was my impression, tell me if i'm wrong, you did not state in any way, shape or from that there was no scheme. >> my testimony speaks for itself. i'm not going to go down that road. read the other two and i'll have another comment. >> by the way, if russia was working so hard in the 2016 administration, it took place during the obama admin, why didn't they stop them? >> here's my point. you can read the third one, too, but here's my point, there is a much broader issue here that we as a government need to address beyond whether the latest tweet from our president is accurate or in

and also, don't forget, jeh johnson testified the other day, the former head of homeland security, he testified the other day that, you know, we had a candidate out there saying that the election was rigged. he was obviously referring to donald trump, and that that played into their calculation, too, because what did they want to do, come out there and say, wait a minute, the election is rigged? but it's against hillary clinton? so that -- i think they did have a very difficult choice, but when they did say something, don't forget, jeh johnson also said the press didn't pay much attention to it because it was the same day that the access hollywood tape was released. >> that was another problem. what would have happened, let's say, in july, september, october, if obama had said the russians were intervening to help donald trump. the trump campaign, you know, would have lashed out at the politicization of the intelligence community. >> it probably would have done a lot to infuse donald trump supporters. it would have driven up the excitement and enthusiasm. this probably would have play

>> jeh johnson testifies about russian attempts to influence the 2016 u.s. election. after that, andrew mccabe on the fiscal year 20 15 budget proposal. congressman steve cohen on the russian investigation and his call for investigating eric trump's charity. former homeland security secretary jeh johnson appeared in a hearing for russian interference in the u.s. 2016 election. russian president vladimir putin -- they also discussed the rational for designating u.s. election systems is critical infrastructure in early january 2017. this hearing is 2.5 hours. >> good morning. i have asked rick crawford to open with a prayer. >> heavenly father, we are thankful for every blessing. thank you for the blessing of this nation. we ask that her people would strive to be worthy of that blessing. pray for humility and temperance and mail we do be pleasing to you. in jesus name, amen. consultation with adam, i make a motion to give each member seven minutes to question witnesses. it is their discussion on the motion? everybody would get seven including adam and i? good to go? the

clearly, some folks don't think it was enough. >> interesting in the statement, october 7th, jeh johnsonames clapper put ow, we believe based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts that only russia's senior most officials could have authorized these activities. the president knew it was putin personally, but in the statement they said, senior most officials, and people wonder, if you knew it was putin, why are you just blaming senior-most officials? >> i don't know if this chapter will make it into barack obama's book when it comes out but i would like to hear from the former fred more about his thinking and probe that, because if your own folks are saying we came up short here, i think there is value in that. i do -- i don't think it's crazy that president trump bring this up. it's a valid point. i don't think it excuses, though what we need to do moving forward. if it distracts from that, it is more problematic. it's important to hear from president obama on that. >> and, wolf, important that october statement did not say they tried to sway the election, to help president trump.

let's listen to the former homeland security secretary jeh johnson with why they didn't come out withhe information. >> the more information thing is there was a powerful foreign actor trying to put this thumb on the scale of our democracy. the question is why i was voluntarily willing to go to washington this week and testify about it. is what are we going to do about it? what next? our election infrastructure in this country is exposed. there were vulnerabilities that came to light last year. so what are we going to do about that for '18? or '20? and frankly, the current president through his rhetoric is kind of sending the signals that this is something that will be tolerated. so powerful actors like the russians they look at what they think will happen if they do something. and we've got to make this kind of behavior cost prohibitive. >> that wasn't the sound i was talking about, he said, to the house intel committee, one of the candidates was predicting that the election would be rigged. so, we were concerned by making the statement that could be challenging the integrity of the