the story of jerry mcwilliams -- who by the way, was not a racist. he wrote in dialect but read the part about him it is interesting. in the book. but jerry is an african-american woman. and i was interviewing her. she was telling all about this stuff and tiffany for a tour. i said where did you grow up? she said i glorify here. i said i thought it was mostly a white neighborhood up until the 60s and 70s. she said there was a small black area here. i used to walk by her all the time on the way to sears. and we did not know what it was this building. there were all these little creatures you know for rabbit and fox in the front yard. so my girlfriend and i when we were about 14 decided we would knock on the door and asked them what is going on here. so they did. they knocked on the door and two little old ladies, two little old white ladies opened the door and said, we don't let - in here and closed the door. and she told me this like it was matter-of-fact.and then she ended up working there. it was aggravated -- it was segregated until 1988. so everyt