i work with jim lovell.he's donating his book. >> i'm going to see jim in a couple of weeks when i'm out at -- [inaudible] >> wonderful. i hope he comes and visits here again. >> a pleasure. >> thank you so much. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> hello, my dear. >> how are you? i completely forgot as is will i would have a copy that you sign for me. [inaudible conversations] >> i hope i didn't embarrass you. >> no. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> thank you so much. [inaudible conversations] >> i enjoyed the talk. thank you so much. >> i went to space camp before there was a space can't. there was a space age camp in waynesboro pennsylvania. a great place. who do i make this out to? [inaudible] >> take a look at our film, the modern generation. i look like a crazy old man, so forgive me. thank you. >> just an autograph. >> i hope you enjoy it. hello. nice to meet you. >> can't wait to read it. >> how're you? >> thanks for being here. >> my son graduates in my school

and that's ooh actually brought out really nicely in their mission patch which was designed by jim lovell, really that drawing things together, drawing the earth and the moon closer together by actually having people go there. and lovell and borman had an interesting connection, the fact that they'd already flown together. >> that's -- >> so this is a unique crew in many respects, but in part because they had flown together before. >> that's right. and if you go out into the entry gallery, look at the gemini 4 spacecraft. that was the exact same model of spacecraft that these two guys, borman and lovell, flew in the first time they flew. it is basically two coach seats, and you're wearing inflatable suits so your shoulders are touching. and the overheld is three inches above your head when the hatches were closed. jim and frank lived in that spacecraft without ever getting to open the doors for two solid weeks in lower earth orbit. borman described it very glamorously as a fortnight in a men's room. that's how he described it. [laughter] they joked when they came home that they said, well