to buy mine for four by experience i think the nato will stay on because you know nato is useful as a practical tool and that is no reason to my mind. soul you know it is not in going to the actual word of fact that you can stand for european union or you know there are ways you know like in trade like environment like instructor or find some micro biome is policy you know all those things that are made of things existing beyond the fast so we have not to frank immediately went in for a lack of say the saying let's just begin about it will be obvious i don't think so don't trump also advise nato to maybe focus on terrorism and immigration do you think the lions should be doing the job of the european border guard. frankly speaking i am not of this opinion is don't do is a sop a through line you know that is a softer line between you know a military role and the rescuer but i don't think that nato really as much of their role can be going to have some role monsanto not a major role. nato played a big part in khadafi its overthrow in libya and you're saying its aftermath has spread inst

nato is now joining the anti isis coalition but what's to point of doing that i mean most nato countries with serious military capability are already fighting islamic state is the us led coalition really in need of support from i don't know let's say iceland's military for example. well i can tell you you know as you are say rightly over a war most all of the nato allies are participating in the n.t. eyes as a pressure but not the nato isaf so the decision which has been taken a few days ago in brussels is mainly a political decision a symbolic want if you like i mean it does not involve i want to be clear on that it does not involve comical but i actions and the nato flag it is out of question georgia will be a political if you like signal and perhaps some nato assets will be used like the i was like to get a call myself blames you know and perhaps training you know and education on this kind of things but no call button on the ground. so if nato isn't going to commit specific troops to the anti isis five how will it go about its participation within the coalition. all as i say to be fa

and this nato agreement helps us do that. ows e must also do what fl from it and say to the russians, who are the point of nato, you -- we're going to have sanctions because of your aggression in eastern europe and at the same time send that message to the iranians. with that, mr. chairman, i urge a very strong unanimous vote for this. this is something so bipartisan, so wonderful. it's a good day, it's a good bill. it gives us all hope. i urge our colleagues to vote aye. and call upon the speaker to bring the other bill to the floor. and i hope our distinguished chair and ranking member of the foreign affairs committee will be able to be part of bringing it to the floor very soon. thank you. i yield back.

we are going to make nato very strong. you need the money to make it strong. you can't just do what we've been doing in the past. so i did say, yes, you haven't paid this year, but what about the past years, the many past years where you haven't paid? perhaps you should pay some or all of that money back. you have a question. reporter: thank you. i have a question for president trump. on the matter of security, sir, many of the countries on the eastern flank of nato, including romania, see russia as a threat to the security and the peace in the region. do you share this vision, and do you think that the united states should act under article 5 if any of this country will be under military aggression? thank you very much. president trump: well, i am committing the united states and i have committed, but i am committing the united states to article 5. and certainly we are there to protect, and that's one of the reasons i want to make sure people know we have a strong force by paying the kind of money to have that force. yes, i would be absolutely committed to ar

nato. one of the biggest concerns in europe now is the president trump visited nato headquarters but not publicly reiterating the u.s. commitment to article v. vladimir putin suggested this weekend that these squabbles of nato are helpful to russia. i understand that the president wants every country to pay the fair share. why was the president not willing to underscore the united states' commitment to our allies in nato? >> because it was no change to policy. of course we believe in article v. i met with all of my nato ambassadors yesterday. we've said a threat on one of us is a threat on all of us. nato will continue to be strong. it will continue to be united. russia is going to try to divide it. the truth is we never swayed from article v. we honestly still believe it. the president doesn't mention it because he wasn't changing. the focus will be on taking care of each other. >> why can you say it on my show but president trump can't say it at nato headquarters. he's made comments along

to marshall plan was the stimulant, nato was the shield.came from hundreds of thousands of men and women that worked with a will because they saw a mighty purpose. now they were working for peace, working for themselves and working for tomorrow. in strasburg, the council of europe was meeting regularly. many european nations, nato members and others, discussed the futures of their countries. no executivel had powers and members only advised on general trends. but it was at least a common meeting place, somewhere where it could be viewed as a whole -- where europe could be viewed as a whole. a start, but there was a long way to go. the arteries of the continent might be throbbing with new life, but still the age-old barriers loomed. it seemed that little short of .tomic bombs could shift and yet the solution was easier than anyone had imagined. millions where it hurt most, in their pockets. the higher standard of living for the sectors that finally pushed down the walls. the higher standard of living for the sectorsonce the steelwol mines of

to nato without being committed to article 5 because nato is about article 5, collective defense, standne, one for all. second, it is in the u.s. interest to have a strong nato because two world wars and the cold war told us stability, peace in europe is also important for the process enter at this and the stability for security of the united states. you have to remember that the only time nato has invoked article 5 was after an attack on the united states. >> dickerson: has president trump's pressure on nato members to pick up their financial commitments has that been effective? >> it has helped to convey a very clear message about the need for increased defense spending across canada and europe, and a good thing is that the european allies now understand that we have to invest more in defense, not only to please the united states but because it is in the interests of europe to invest more in security, because we live in more dangerous world, and the good news is that defense spending now has started to increase across europe. we have started to increase and looking toward the target.

on the question of nato, nato is engaged with us. nato members are engaged in iraq and the coalition to defeat isis in syria. six or seven countries have committed air forces to strikes on behalf of both iraqi and syrian forces fighting the islamic state and will continue to do so. that is part of what we get from the leadership that we take, internationally. countries are willing to commit nato is very much -- it considers itself in the struggle against terrorism. host: what do you expect to happen on thursday? guest: i owe my long diplomatic career to not making irreconcilable political forecasts, but i do agree with steve air longer that it is likely that the conservative party led by theresa may will win sufficient votes to organize a government. , think her steadfast support channeling her inner margaret thatcher in this day of tragedy will help her in that regard. host: we thank you very much for stopping by, charlie reay's -- charlie reese, a former civil servant officer and now with the rand corporation, and our representativ

parties that are committed to breaking apart nato, withdrawing from the eu. these are very will cha efrjing dynamics and in conversations at a security conference earlier this year with european allies i was haunted by a question from a diplomat from an eastern european country observing that our election had beena, tacked by the russians and under mined and that they saw no concerted action at that point by the administration or congress to respond to that. the question from this polish leader was, if you won't defend your democracy, how can we have confidence that you will help defend our democracy? in democracies where they're more fragile and is more directly and immediately under threat from a power with alternative vision for how societies ought to be organized, that's a significant question and in leading a bipartisan delegation to the czech republic, ukraine and estonia, i came away with a simple conclusion that was shared by others which is that citizens of those countries, average people of those countries need to be able to show russian citizens or

ships or they come into -- into nato air space or nato waters and this seems to be going on all of the time and i worry that this is going to be a spark that some day could lead to inadvertent escalation, what do you see as the purpose of this, what is the strategic intent? >> go right ahead. >> what can be done about it? >> thank you very much for your question, it's actually a very excellent question because it points to the larger question to what is behind all of that, why the heck are they doing that even though they know that it's pretty dangerous. i mean, we have seen the buzzing of the uss mcdonald. you're right. this is actually pretty serious. i think the russians have several objectives. one of the objectives is to make clear to nato, we are here, we are ready, we are pretty good armed and just don't come too close. so in a sense, it is intimidating the opponent not to move too close, not to engage in too many military maneuvers, not to send too much hardware and so on and so on. the other objective i think is what i try to point out in my remarks, is to create unpredictabil

i would say that i can see that strategy through nato and what i also -- >> through nato? >> yeah, because when it comes to cyber attacks, you remember that as a result of the first cyber attack on a large scale which happened years ago when russia attacked estonia, center of excellence was established in estonia, which was supposed to be -- >> that didn't have anything to do with an american strategy. i was there at the opening of it. >> yeah, but i think that the strategy, in all case, i can just return to old case, you know, thanks to when we found out that it would be difficult, at least as far as i know, it would be difficult to clarify the case, we turn to -- and ask for help from the u.s. and the uk agencies. i would -- i would like to believe that, you know, strategy exists. i can only -- i cannot comment on it because i'm not in the loop. i didn't read it. i didn't talk to people who can explain, but what i can see that is happening every day there is that through your embassies and through your deputy heliplomati, a network that exists in nato, the working level,

like my colleagues, i believe that natoings that been -- nato has been indispensable in deterring another world war and in protecting our values and ideals. it is our commitment to each other and to those ideals that have made our alliance so strong, so effective, and it is that commitment to each other that has enhanced the territorial security and stability of each one of us. let us not forget that it was following the terrorist attacks of 9/11 that nato invoked article 5 for the only time in its history. coming to the defense of us, the united states. this was a signal of unity. of strength. and that's what makes article 5 so special. i also appreciate the pledges of our alliance members to share the burden of the cost of our mutual defense by aiming to spend at least 2% of their g.d.p. on defense by the year 2024. that is so important, mr. speaker, because nato's role over the years has evolved. we are no longer facing just the threat of communist aggression. we are facing a multitude of threats against our mutual national security interests around the globe. and we need to be prepare

nato is engaged with us. nato members are engaged in iraq and in the coalition to defeat isis in syria. six or seven countries have committed their air force is to strikes on the half of iraqi and syrian forces fighting the islamic state and will continue to do so. that is part of what we get from the leadership that we take internationally. countries are willing to commit to help us, and nato is very much considers itself in the terrorist struggle -- and the struggle against terrorism. host: what do you expect to happen on thursday? i/o my diplomatic career to not making irreconcilable -- i owe my diplomatic career to not making irreconcilable forecast, but i agree with stephen are longer that -- with steve or longer -- steven organizethat they will the government and i think her steadfast support, as i have said, channeling her in a margaret thatcher, is in this they of tragedy will help her in that regard. host: thank you for stopping by. with the grandow corporation serving as the international vice presi

but he did make that commitment to article five in nato when he chose not to during the nato meeting. >> pelley: john, thank you. nancy cordes, one of the things comey said yesterday is he took careful notes after his meetings and phone calls with the president because he was afraid the president would lie about them. >> that's right. interestingly, he almost pre-staged the argument that the president made just now in this press conference. he was asked point blank by one senator: why should we believe what you're saying versus what the president said about this matter, and he said, look, you have the look at the entirety of everything that i've said. you have to look at my testimony as a whole. you can't say, well, i liked these things that he said, so i agree with them, but on all these other things he's a dirty rotten liar, and that's essentially what the president just did. he said that comey in his testimony had backed up the president in some ways but then lied in a whole bunch of other ways. i will tell you, scott, this does not appear to be a close call when it comes to the re

nato is there to protect and defend all allies.he message we are sending with the battle groups we are deploying to the baltic countries is an attack on one ally will trigger the response from the whole alliance. by sending that message, we deliver credible deternce. deterrence is the way we have prevented conflict in europe for almost 70 years. >> that was dw's terry schultz talking with the secretary-general of nato. a u.s. warplane has shut down what the military says was an armed pro-syrian regime drone. it says the unmanned aircraft was bu bearing down on his forces near the syria-iraq border. the base is used to advise and train local ground forces. it comes days after another u.s. plane shot down a syrian fighter jet. tonight, south korea's president says that pyongyang bears a heavy responsibility for the death of the american student otto warmbier. with the president stopped short of saying that north korea killed him. he died several days after returning to the u.s. in a,. h-- a coma. he spent 17 months in north korea. hi

ships or they come into nato airspace and submarines come into nato water waters. this seems to be going on all the time, and i worry that this is going to be a spark that someday could lead to inadvertent escalation. what do you see as the purpose of this? what is the strategic intent? , and what can be done about it question. >> thank you very much for your questions. very excellent questions because it points to the larger question of what is behind all that. what is the russian strategic interests. why are they doing that even though they know it's pretty dangerous. we have seen the buzzing. you're right. this is actually pretty serious. i think the russians have several objectives. one of the objectives is to make clear to nato we are here, we are ready, we are armed and just don't come too close. in a sense, it's not to move too close, not to engage in too many military maneuvers, not to spend too much hardware and so on. the other objective is what i tried to point out in my remark remarks, to create a sense of unpredictability. a sense where the opponent in

but nato is set up for security reasons. and we have been concerned about being attacked ourselves, but also we have alliances, it is an alliance, and the heart of it is article 5, which is in for one, one for all, it's a collective responsibility. so and the interesting thing is article 5 has only been invoked once, that was after 9/11 when we were attacked, so i think it is a sign that we have those who will help us. it's not actually where you just kind of pay dues to us. it is a plan that works in order to help develop the forces, the systems, fighting terrorism, all of those things together on nato. the eu i think is very important to us because we do want the trade with europe. the people in brussels help to make the rules in terms of what happens on a digital market or how do we -- what happens to our agriculture. none of those things are easy but ultimately one can make an argument that various congressional districts benefit by some of the things that happen both in the eu and nato. but it takes explaining because w

and nato. >> i'd like to call the hearing to order. that'd committee convenes its second open hearing of 2017 into russian interference in the 2016 u.s. election the 12th open hearing this year. to date our open hearings have largely focused on the domestic impact of russia's dealings. today's hearing will hilet russia's intersfeerns in the european elections. senator burr: we hope to gain additional understanding of russian efforts to undermine democratic institutions worldwide as the committee continues its inquiry. the intelligence committee assessed in january that moscow will apply lessons learned from its campaign aimed at the united states presidential election to further influence efforts worldwide. it further assessed that russia sought to influence elections across europe. the director of national intelligence copse echoed those words as recently as may when he testified before the senate that russia's seeking to influence election in europe, including france, germany and the yinalted

an issue of nato, a foreign policy issue. and at first when he was asked about the testimony of james comey, he said that he felt vindicated and then he said he wanted to move on to talk about jobs, middle east, the policy and the like. so what you have here from the president and this white house is a group that feels vindicated but yet there are still several questions, connell. the up most being this tape. when might the president clear the air about it? what might he say? and what road does that lead down? >> well, some of that might come in testimony. that was one of the other big questions today. will he testify under oath? >> will he testify under oath? and he said 100%. the backtory to that of course we just heard james comey testify under oath and the other question, the follow-up so if bob muller who is leading the special counsel asks you to testify under oath you will do so, and he iterated yes. that was a request that nancy pelosi insinuated today that she would like to see on capitol hill. but the investigation

are only there because of the watch of nato.he men and equipment keeping 24 hour guard by land, sea and air. across from the heartland only a few miles east and toil ceaselessly to and more miles of wire to the already enormous web of the iron curtain. working men are trying to pass the time. they scuttle away like mice because they are afraid. where there is no wire there is the wall. the wall dividing peoples and families without wall -- rhyme or reason. today becauseato just beyond that may be tempted to do something desperate. us no time for walls, we have a train to catch. theney cannot join us europe is moving ahead so fast there is a real danger of being left behind. as much as we wish them with us we over here are going. and at had together. -- at full speed ahead. ♪ >> c-span where history unfolds daily. in 1979 c-span was created as a public service by america's cable television companies. it is brought to you today by your catalog -- cable or satellite provider. >> recently, american history tv was that the american h

we are going to make nato very strong. you need the money to make it strong. you can't just do what we've been doing in the past. so i did say, yes, we haven't -- you haven't paid this year but what about the past years, the many past years where you haven't paid? perhaps you should pay some or all of that money back. you have a question. reporter: thank you. i have a question for president trump. on the matter of security, sir, many of the countries on the eastern flank of nato, including romania, see russia as a threat to the security and the peace in the region. do you share this vision and do you think that the united states should act under article 5 if this country will be under military aggression? thank you very much. president trump: well, i am committing the united states and have committed, but i am committing the united states to article 5, and certainly we are there to protect, and that's one of the reasons i want to make sure people know we have a very strong force by having the -- paying the kind of money to have that force. yes, i would be abso

now nato chief u.n. stoltenberg has announced that the airlines has forces that are combat ready along russia's border. for multinational but the troops in the baltic countries on poland are now fully operational a clear demonstration that our line stance united in the face of any possible aggression nato secretary general there also said that the block security spending has seen its biggest increase since twenty fourteen in fact an increase of four point three percent in teen years amounting to a total of almost forty six billion dollars we're joined now by my granny. b s news human rights activist. hello there mike why do you think nato feels it necessary to increase its spending by such a large amount then. i think nato is still trying to justify itself after. nearly twenty or twenty five years of. existence that should have happened really after the cold war nato should have been disbanded but obviously it still be news it was used in libya it's used in afghanistan it's used in in syria still today i

we were able to expand nato. i do think that a bipartisan foreign policy is absolutely essential in order to be able to get anything done but also again to the example that we were just talking about when you travel in terms of how you get various people with some disagreements to find a place where it's win-win. i think that a bipartisan foreign policy needs to be the hallmark of american foreign policy because it has worked very well for us. i know it's not simple. >>> we had a bipartisan lunch and this was immediately following a vote. i said to him, bob, if you asked me a month ago what was going to happen on russia sanctions i would have predicted that we would end up with an iran sanctions bill too tough for virtually any to sign off on. instead a disciplined group request sat down and hammered out the differences, came up with a joint bill and it passed by 98-2 in the senate on these other devicive questions. it is to find a way to produce meaningful results. only a room full of would appreciate this one.

nato and the european union do not have to compete against each other. they have to work together they have to work in such a manner as to produce synergetic effects. make nato stronger, make europe stronger, make the united states of america stronger. and this is what we decided, president trump and i, to make our partnership stronger, better, more enduring and this will lead very soon to an enhanced economic exchange to better commercial and this is what we all decide and what we wish because we are responsible, president trump and i, not only for the security, we are responsible for the well-being of our citizens and this is what we have decided to do. thank you so much, president trump. >> thank you. dave boyer, "washington times," please? dave? >> thank you. >> come on, dave. >> thank you, mr. president. >> apologies. >> that's all right, dave. >> mr. president, this morning on twitter, you were referring to the testimony of james comey vindicating you but i wondered if you could tell us in person, sir, why you feel that his testimony vindicated you

our nato counterparts don't want to have normal dialogue so some nato members use the consensus principle to. keep turning away from this dialogue they have the same mantra they say that relations between russia and nato will never. be the same unless russia. changes its stance but this is idea there is that this is an approach with a lot of ideological bias and only lead to a dead end you know we have an initiative with turkey and iran. too we can have the u.s. jordan the u.n. . joining this initiative which we also have. new meetings. so this will take place next week and this initiative has been supported by every stakeholder we want this initiative to be carried out conscientiously by every party including by foreign stakeholders and this is our specific contribution to. resolving the situation and i hope that our regional. the u.s. the u.s. partners will share the same approach they need to deescalate the situation by creating the so-called deescalation zones we need to provide to them. parish military situation they should not be trying to stake out a specific territory of syria whi

dawlish believes that was a dangerous move by nato aircraft. politics he and the russia is a country overlooking the baltic sea how far that from america how would actually that against with the ag if say for example the chinese have actually flew with military jets. yes maybe and sort of neutral water but fewer miles of the american cause with an american aircraft getting an american official you know they probably would declare war i mean this is the whole thing that actually with the public opinion again this to america and we are on air i will actually need every day out much much bigger problems in the world actually than this kind of school playground bully it is a. continuation of the one izing russia for. political support a secret sumption internally the united states should not really reflect itself in this kind because this gives that extremely extremely dangerous all in easiest clash between two pilots and then we're at war. russia's foreign minister says he's currently waiting for an explanation from washington after a syrian milit

those who know what nato is will say you have a point. why can't the nato partners spend what they promised on the fence? the united states has been spending wealth on defense. why can't the europeans do that as well? west germanyer, was defended by nato and the united states, so now it is time for the rich countries in europe to spend what they promised on defense. what is the problem? rieke: you might have a point. i mean, the way he made that point, the way he acted with all these world leaders, i think it shows a clear neglect of transatlantic relations and importance, and i think it was clearly devoted to his constituency at home, what he did in brussels and italy. appealing tos been his constituency in west virginia and texas. that is his audience. europe might be shocked at trump's behavior in brussels, and it was not anything to be proud about as an american, but that is the way he has been acting all along. >> and now merkel is playing to her audience. we all know who trump is. he is a bully. he is a bull in a china shop. the sec

welcome back russia's defense minister has had two and counters with nato jets in just one day while flying over the neutral waters of the baltic sea the trying to has the details. a bit like movie scenes the incidents that we saw how open on wednesday the plane with the russian defense ministry on board had to end counters with nato military jets the first one happened when surrogate shaw who was traveling to the russian city of kaliningrad now journalists who were inside that plane filmed something that i found really chilling i'll tell you nato f. sixteen jets flying just meters from the wing tip then there was a russian fighter jet that squeezed between the two to ward off the nato plane now guess what the alliance says they are saying that they didn't know that the head of the russian army was on board but when the plane with the russian defense minister was flying back home the nato fighter jets followed that plane again although that was without approaching it they claim talking about the alliance right now that for them it is a standard procedure i suppose it's made all the m

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we're going to make nato very strong. you need the money to make it strong. you can't just do what we've been doing in the past. yes, i did say yes you haven't said but the past years, the many past years you've paid. perhaps you should pay some or all of that money back. you have a question? >> thank you. a question for president trump. on the matter of security, sir, you -- many of the countries on the eastern flank of nato, including romania, see russia as a threat to the security and the peace in the region. do you share this vision and do you think that the united states should act under article 5 if any of this country will be under military aggression? thank you very much. >> well, i'm committing the united states and have committed, but i'm committing the united states to article 5. certainly we are there to protect. that's one of the reasons that i want people to make sure we have a very, very strong force by paying the kinds of money necessary to have that force. yes, i would be committed to article 5. >> thank you, mr. president. were there any dis

ships so they come into nato airspace or their submarines come into nato wonders. it seems to be going on all the time and i'm worried that that's going to spark that someday could lead to inadvertent escalation. what do you foresee in terms of this. >> what is the strategic intent.>>. and what can be done about it? >> thank you very much for your question. it's actually a very excellent question because it goes to the larger question of what is the time for that, what is the russian strategic, wired it they doing that even though they know that could be dangerous? we have seen the buzzing of the earlybird class uss mcdonald's so you're right, this is actually pretty serious. i think the russians have several objectives. one of the objectives is to make clear to nato we are here. we are ready. we are pretty good armed and just don't come too close. but in a sense it is intimidating the opponent not to move too close, not to engage in too many maneuvers, not to send too much hardware and so on. the other objective i think is what i tried to point out in my remarks i

do they like nato? do they want to see nato strong? >> again, i'm sure you have already spoken the people who are greater experts than i but yeah they don't like nato. they think nato encircles them and threatens them. >> would they have a preference for a candidate that expressed an openness to repealing the sanctions over ukraine? >> again, i don't want to get in the business of commenting on this. >> let me ask you this way, director. would they like to see the sanctions on ukraine go away? >> yes. >> would they have a preference for a candidate who expressed open admiration for poout snn. >> i hope you'll reform late the question. mr. putin would like people that like him. >> encouraging brexit and other departures of europe? would they like to see more brexits? >> yes. >> and have the russians in europe demonstrated a preference for business people as political leaders with the hope that they can entangle them in financial interests or allow their financial interests to take precedence over the interests of the countries in europe

to defending nato allies.ision known as article v. trump's national security team, we are now learning was blind side booed i the omission in his speech. this is according to politico. the defense secretary, national security adviser, and secretary of state all lobbied the president to do so. according to the reporter susan glasser, quote, the president appears to have deleted it himself. according to one version making the rounds inside the government. it suggests trump's impulsive instincts on foreign policy aren't necessarily going to be contained by the team of experienced leaders he has hired. we are joined for the segment by christopher hill arc four him ambassador under three presidents most recently to iraq. he is also an msnbc contributor. and back with us, peter baker of the "new york times" who was also an msnbc political analyst. gentlemen, thank you for this. and ambassador, i'll start you off with the briefest reexplanation to our viewers, the definition as best you can do it of article five. sec

germany is united nato has three new members and the european union soon grow embraced nation's whatemarkable few years and has been. the story of helmut kohl is a 20th-century in goods born in a small city on the rhine and saw firsthand the ravages of the nazis. but the young man was? to see those possibilities in the postwar world. there the marshall plan he sought europeans and americans could do together to spread good will among young people. when he was only 16 he was one of the very first people to join the christian democratic union zero '02 46 was his number. and 50 years ago at the age of 19 he and his friends were briefly detained at the french border for causing the friendliest border incident in history they tried to remove the barriers between the countries in support of the franco-german friendship of european unity. he was not your everyday teenager. as the helmut kohl political star rose he believed in and people were crucial to the future and he still believes that everything kim and the young people who were here to honor him. fox a -- he always maintained europe m

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the head of nato is now condemning that attack.wo weeks agriculture barbaric. the secretary general of nato and the former prime minister of norway. he is good enough to join us now from washington. thank you, secretary general, for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> we don't know of course the motive of yesterday attackers, but terror groups such as isis are now bringing their fight to europe's doorstep. that we know. i'm wondering what more can be done to try to stop groups from infiltrating europe and getting others to carry out these attacks. what can nato do? >> we have to do many different things. we have to step up our political ideological fight against this extremist ideologists which are -- it's kind of barbaric attacks against innocent civilians. but we also need to use military means and nato has a role to play. you have to remember that our biggest military operation ever is our military presence in afghanistan. which a response to a terrorist attack against the united states on 9/11. and we are in afghanist