we do not kill al qaeda.those navy seals took down the messenger, but unfortunately our political leadership did not take down the message. that's what we have today. so, why did i read this book? i wrote the book because even 16 years after 9/11 we still don't have deeper understanding of the enemy. do i mean by that? some across ages said, if you know your enemy and know yourself, you will win 100 times in a hundred battles. do we know our enemy on that level? if you watch television we are still fighting 16 years after 911. what we call the enemy? do we call them islam is, islamic extremist, radical islamic extreme is or i love this one, losers. [laughter] >> would you call them? that indicates that we have no understanding of what the enemy is, so every time we have a disaster when i was talk about, my gosh we could not imagine something like this would happen that's the very first thing. even the 9/11 commission they spent millions of dollars on investigating and they did a great job, but they called the

he and his brother said now became an al qaeda sleeper cell..s. intelligence learned that one of the kouachis had visited yemen, and alerted the french, who started monitoring them. but they discovered nothing of the charlie hebdo plot. surveillance resources were already stretched, and the number of european extremists was about to surge. (explosion) >> narrator: in 2012, the war in syria dramatically changed the european security landscape. (shouting) it spawned a new jihadist movement, isis, which set out to be even more brutal than al qaeda. in 2014, the group formally split from al qaeda and declared a caliphate, or islamic state, and summoned all muslims to join them. (speaking spanish) >> (translated): and the effect of that call is brutal. it's... well, extraordinary. our investigations multiplied extraordinarily. >> narrator: dolores delgado is the chief counterterror prosecutor of spain's high court. as spain's liaison to france and belgium, she worked closely with her european counterparts to monitor the exploding numbers of isis rec

he was a poster-child for al qaeda. in early days if you look at old videotapes of al qaeda, always saying fiery speeches, when he was a kid. he is training with the mujahideen of the he told his father, he said, father, when i was in jail i learned a lot. you will be proud of me. i learned about this. i learned about that. now i am forged by steel. i am ready to march with the legions of mujahedeen under your command. bin laden from all his sons released, only go people to come join him, his wife, which has a ph. did, older than him. she has only one son, hopplessa. his wife wasn't just a -- hamza. she was his advisor. she was his wordsmith. she was his con sigly air. he missed his wife after he has been in jail in iraq seven or eight years. he wanted her to come. he threatened to his commander, he said if you don't bring her here i will bring her here. this commander said you have lost his mind. then we know why. because he wanted her, he wanted her to basically work on his statement on the anniversary, 10th anniversa

and kouachi of al qaeda. how was the association between al qaeda and isis even possible? realized it's simply a question of relationships. it's just that they knew each other. personal connections sometimes go beyond a group's strategy. they may fight each other in syria, but can still do things together in france. >> narrator: as france reeled from the charlie hebdo attacks, another plot was being uncovered across the border in belgium. (shouting, gunfire) on the 15th of january, belgian police raided a house in the town of verviers, killing two terrorist suspects and wounding one. u.s. and french spy agencies had helped track their return from syria. investigators found evidence that they were part of an isis cell deployed by the young belgian extremist abdelhamid abaaoud. >> because of the verviers case, abaaoud came very clearly in the picture. >> narrator: eric van der sypt is a belgian counterterror prosecutor. >> we realized that he was active in the recruitment of people from france, from belgium and he trained them, and he was responsible for sending back people

and that is totally unacceptable. >> on the al qaeda question, nick, what is al qaeda's potential to carry out a mass casualty attack directed at the united states? >> again, i think i was talking about that a little bit earlier. i was not being very specific. but i think we have done a great deal to degrade and constrain al qaeda's ability, at least the core of al qaeda, the part of al qaeda that carried out the 9/11 attack against the united states, we've done a great deal to degrade that core capability resident in afghanistan and pakistan. there is no question though that al qaeda remains a robust, rye sill yent organization with a global presence and that their al qaeda affiliate organizations around the world that are profoundly threatening to u.s. interest. i think about the amount of time we spender worries about al qaeda and the arabian peninsula and was directed at the united states over the last decade and this goes to some of your question about earlier about failed states, or safe havens and the difficulty we have in constraining terrorist activity in places like yemen.

link to al qaeda but the fact is that c.n.n. for its under cover in serious national hired contracted the services of a lot of dual karim was the only american living in al qaeda controlled territory that i know of he is someone who's been referred to by top al qaeda clerics like a billow hasan he is our media man al-arabiya the state saudi state media organ referred to dual karim as a member of judgement on this or the al qaeda affiliate in syria i don't know if that's true karim has denied it careens close colleague from his online organization on the ground news. who is a british citizen who entered syria territory has just had his citizenship stripped the british government has accused him of membership in al-qaeda and it's very clear that abdul karim is close to al qaeda because if you watch any of his videos and his interviews or the interviews he grants since his own media affiliates he is extremely sympathetic to its clerics to its ideology and he echoed his it's sectarianism so this was well known when c.n.n. sclerosis

and not part of al qaeda were isis. that is one thing i would think is too tight. i do think associations can't be just a group that shares the ideology, but it is writing white paper somewhere. it is a group fighting along with al qaeda in some way. >> thank you both for your testimony. > thank you. >> i want to thank the chairman for convening this panel. i want to thank my fellow members for their long-standing leadership on this matter. you have each spoken to the importance and appropriateness of and a umf, not just debating it, that passing in a umf. allow me to flip this issue on its head and ask a question of you in this way. if in one year, god for bid five years, u.s. forces remained engaged in ostilities against isis, and congress has not passed in a umf, why do you believe the average american should be concerned? >> i will saying a sash say one thing legally. it is not clear about detention authority. if we start detaining members of isis under this old aumf there is potential infirmity. congress has not ac

and support of al-qaeda. it is important to note that while they are different cases and acquittals are part of a normally functioning justice system, these are not the only tools available to deal with terror financiers effectively serving as regional bund lers throughout the region to al-qaeda and syria in particular. the first big test will be to populate the domestic designation list just created by qatar's amir and to put people on that list. the u.s. just signed an mou on counter terror financing with qatar. it created new authorities. these need to be implemented in full. qatar has a history of past counter terrorism laws in 2004, 2006, 2010, 2014. they were either not implemented or not implemented in full and so therefore this time we have -- >> we are going to break away from this event to take you live to capitol hill where senate republicans are talking about the health care bill debate. >> but none of us believe it actually replaces obamacare. neither does the freedom causes. and i need assurance

different group, and they are not part of al qaeda or isis. so, that is one thing that i would be -- that's a little bit too tight. i know you want to keep this tight. and i do think that association can't be just a group that shares the ideology but is writing white papers somewhere. it's got to be a group that is, in fact, fighting along with al qaeda in some way. so, i think that idea of co-belligerency is important. >> thank you both for your testimony. i appreciate the opportunity to get your input. >> senator young. >> thank you. well, first, i want to thank our chairman for his leadership in convening this panel about this important issue. i also want to thank my fellow members, kaine and flake, for their longstanding leadership on this matter. mr. bellinger, dr. hicks, you've each spoken to the importance of and the appropriateness of an aumf, not just debating it, but ultimately, congress passing an aumf focused on isis. allow me to flip this issue on its head for a moment and ask a question of you in this way. if in one year, two yea

my assumption, and our assumption, is if you are affiliated with al-qaeda, you are al-qaeda.s show what? can we have some detail what evidence you have? there will be voice recordings. of what, though? people giving instructions, known individuals in qatar giving instructions to known individuals in libya, yemen and syria on carrying out certain acts. for example, there is a specific example i would like to give you, which is on the yemen. we were in the process of engaging with al-qaeda, the qataris were alongside us. we had information, i don't have, but we as a government have information that our qatari allies informed al-qaeda of our precise location and what we were planning to do. then we received four suicide bombers at our door and we had a number of soldiers who were injured. they deliberately sabotaged an attack and tried to kill your own uae soldiers? we have had soldiers dying as a result of qatari activities. why don't you make this evidence public? because this is a cultural issue where we really don't like to have this kind of public confrontation. there is al

my assumption, and our assumption, is if you are affiliated with al-qaeda, you are al-qaeda.dings show what? can we have some detail what evidence you have? there will be voice recordings. of what, though? people giving instructions, known individuals in qatar giving instructions to known individuals in libya, yemen and syria on carrying out certain acts. for example, there is a specific example i would like to give you, which is on the yemen. we were in the process of engaging with al-qaeda, the qataris were alongside us. we had information, i don't have, but we as a government have information that our qatari allies informed al-qaeda of our precise location and what we were planning to do. then we received four suicide bombers at our door and we had a number of soldiers who were injured. they deliberately sabotaged an attack and tried to kill your own uae soldiers? we have had soldiers dying as a result of qatari activities. why don't you make this evidence public? because this is a cultural issue where we really don't like to have this kind of public confrontation. there i

charlie: it was a decision in their interest to knock out al qaeda at that time, because al qaeda hadices that were contrary to the wishes of people. michael: the reason they were successful is he was able to convince them that they would have a role in the future of their country. at the end of the day, they didn't get that. it will be really hard to sell that idea to them again. charlie: is the prime minister of iraq prepared to do that? he says he is. michael: i think with a sufficient amount of u.s. leadership, it is possible to get there. but without u.s. leadership, it is not. u.s. leadership is critical. charlie: you come to the issue of u.s. leadership. you have talked about how happy you are that the president is prepared to push back. thatou here in the region u.s. leadership is not there beyond , what happened at riyadh, beyond the effort against extremism against , isis. yousef: i think in the trump administration we see a level of engagement we have not seen in a while. charlie: the president says he wants to do some of the things that she doesn't want to do things other

al qaeda to pick up its game. al qaeda is very much on the rise. justashington institute led a research and produced a volume edited by my colleague. al qaeda has survived the arab spring and al qaeda has the begun to reintroduce magazine inspire, a shorter very specifically on people who carry out attacks and how you can do the same. i think we need to not be so caught up in one part of the threat that we don't see the others. the al qaeda threat is very serious. it's helpful to look at a report that talks about the spectrum of inspired, enabled, and directed plots. when it comes to those who are inspired and loan offenders, they write that these are individual attackers possibly but not necessarily being helped by family and friends as accomplices. they are inspired by jihadist propaganda messaging but not necessarily instructions from any particular group. recognize need to that even as we have success on the battlefield against the islamic state, radicalization process is not linear. you can have someone was r

then they went to support al qaeda.hen they supported al-nusra. >> the united states and you must share and common enemy in the taliban. in fact, the united states cleaned up the taliban after 9/11, as you know. >> yes, but i am talking about saudi arabia and united initially made them wrong choices too. we both opposed the taliban, whether we were on the same side or not, it is important. ♪ charlie: when you look today, what does iran want, what role does it want to play in the world? javad: iran is a country that despite able to survive pressure, despite a war, despite sanctions area we have been able to make progress. to make scientific achievements, despite of the fact -- in spite of the fact that every restriction was imposed on our country and our people, even our students who are prevented from studying physics and mechanics. at western universities. but we made advances for one reason. our size, ourh geography, and our national resources. >> and we you have no -- you have no global ambitions. >> and most importa

bay had connected with al-qaeda financier an resumed support of al-qaeda. it's important to note while they're difficult cases and acquittals are a part of the justice system, these are not the only tools available to deal with terror financiers serving as bund >> hes from donors throughout region to al-qaeda and syria. the first big test would be to populate the domestic list created by qatar's amir and to put people on that list. the u.s. just signed an m.o.u. on counter terrorism with qatar. it created a whole bunch of new authorities. they need be implemented in full. they have counterterrorism related laws in 2004, 2006, 2010, 2014. there were either not implemented or not implemented in full and so therefore this time we have to make sure that these are done and done effectively. moving forward, the most important thing that qatar populate this list in a tarns parent manner starting with the u.s. treasury and united nations that remain at large and continuing to fund material support to other terrorist groups. i thank you again for the opportunity to

do you believe that saudi arabia supports al-qaeda. do you believe saudi arabia supports -- which has new names now. do you believe saudi arabia supports isis. >> i believe that a lot of saui money -- >> rose: not by the government. >> in fact some of them are in charge of the saudi services. we know al-qaeda when they engaged the soviets was a child of saudi intelligence services. taliban will recognize, the taliban government which was sponsored al-qaeda was only recognized by three states. two of them were -- >> rose: the other was pakistan you said. >> that's a neighbor. i don't want to deal with them because they have their own, because as a neighbor they have a problem. but for saudi arabia and the united arab emirates because pakistan is a neighbor, some other countries in the former soviet union are neighbors. but saudi arabia and united emirates are not even close but they support it. they recognize it. the money, and it's clear, just ask any intelligence person, money that went to isis, most of it came from these countries. w

a lot of the moderate rebels lined up with al qaeda, and the weapons we gave them fell into the handsis, and it's not clear we should be involved in syria at all. this is a coherent decision. this is not how "the washington post" or other media says it is. in other words, trump is doing this because putin wants them to. they could be no other reason. congressman woman represents why, and she joins us. so even, we were talking -- even congresswoman, even if your for regime change, you are anti-assad, nothing is much defense of this program. >> there is not. this is a problem, the syrian people have been crying out for peace for so long, and the media completely is missing the point here about what is being reported, that trump is ending the cia program as he described. for the benefit of your viewers, let's talk about what the cia program actually was. it's been widely reported that for years now the cia was providing arms, intelligence, money, and other support to these armed militants who were working hand-in-hand and are working hand-in-hand, and oftentimes under the command of al q

isis will return to its original roots which was al-qaeda in iraq. it will turn to its original roots as an insurgency. >> rose: an online base? >> it will be in the shadows, it will be in the shadows just like it was before in iraq. >> it will go underground. >> they will go underground but you will remember when united states left iraq at the end of 2011, al-qaeda in iraq still had several thousand fighters in iraq, hidden in the shadows. that is where isis is going to go. so there will be still a security issue that has to be managed. and the united states will have to make a decision about whether we're there and in what numbers we're there, to deal with that problem. so there is a security problem. and then there is a huge political problem in both iraq and syria. the military fight was a necessary condition to defeat isis. a political solution is the sufficient condition, right. and the military success is going to unravel unless we get the politics right. and getting the politics right is exactly what yousef said. it's having a government in b

you believe that saudi arabia supports al qaeda? do you believe saudi arabia supports al nostrum -- el nost ra? which has new names now? javad sharif: i believe a lot of saudi money went to support these organizations. are tribes of saudi intelligence services. --know that when al qaeda a arch builder and of saudi intelligence services. we know that al qaeda -- are children of saudi arabia intelligence services. aey were only recognized by three states. two were saudi arabia and the united arab emirates. charlie: the other was pakistan. javad sharif: well, that's a neighbor. as a neighbor, they have a problem. but for saudi arabia and united arab emirates, staying for behind the actual scene because iran is a neighbor, pakistan is a neighbor, some of the other countries in the former soviet union our neighbors, but saudi arabia and united arab emirates are not even close. but they support it. they recognize the government. the money -- and it's clear. ask any intelligence person. ,he money that went to isis most of it came from thes

in 2010 the american were able to eliminate, defeat al-qaeda, but failure on the pa rt defeat al-qaedaart of the iraqi government to win the hearts and minds of the people in that area really created an atmosphere conducive to a new al-qaeda and the americans at the time they thought al-qaeda would come back but not as fast or as strong as this. today the lesson has been learned by haider al—abadi, but haider al—abadi is in a difficult situation, he needs all the support. neither west is aware to fight islamic state and the islamic militants we have to fight them either as well as militarily. i think the opportunity is open and they hope the west will seize this chance to build the damaged areas and prove to the iraqis that the west is on their side, not only using them to defeat al-qaeda or isis. let's talk now to hanan razek from bbc arabic. thank you for being with us. this is an important day. high important? it isa an important day. high important? it is a massive boost for the iraqi forces and the prime minister, haider al—abadi, and also a massive boost in the fight against the

entity in the world al qaeda in saudi arabia is completely beyond the pale. and mr. goldberg one of the demands from the gulf states was that qatar must close down the turkish military base. i am guess that they are concerned about the muslim brotherhood influenced but how important do you think this demand is in terms of regional stability and purity and is this one that should be dropped? >> thank you congressman for the question. i think on the list of demands that the turkish airbase is probably lower on the list of demands that they emirates are leveling in the most conversations when you hear them more has to do with the press and personal attacks that the different sites are launching at each other. that's more the source of the issue than the terror financing issue within talking about and much more central to the debate. frankly as there has been a move for the turks to point forces years ago and that when the crisis erupted they moved everything out and moved it to a symbolic is a good opportunity where the crisis and the moves back fired on some of

an al qaeda led by bin laden. i look for al qaeda to be resurgent in the coming years. and they are not content to have guys stabbing people and running to people over with trucks. they're going to want to do something big. >> i hope everyone starts with the kill artist and goes all the way through "the house of spies." daniel silva, congratulations on this, what will turn out to be a number-one "new york times" best seller. >> hope so. thank you very much for having me. >> i recommend with people that they begin with the first novel, "the kill artist." indeed, they can all be read on their own. they will inform as they entertain. >>> coming up, the death spiral of the press or just another evolution of the ongoing battle between donald trump and the mainstream media? whoa! you're not taking these. hey, hey, hey! you're not taking those. whoa, whoa! you're not taking that. come with me. you're not taking that. you're not taking that. you're not taking that. mom, i'm taking the subaru. don't be late. even when we're not there to keep them safe, our subaru outback will be

al qaeda has made a fortune in the industry of kidnap-for-ransom. al-shabaab in east africa has run an economy out of exporting charcoal, importing sugar. that's why the u.n. sanctions -- sanctions on the export of coal out of east africa. that's why. they have always used the remittances and taxes off check point. daesh had used access to oil and antiquities, massive populations in the urban environments to their source, run economies, not to me the whole oil industry from production to delivery. so these organizations will take whatever opportunities we give them in terms of resources and space, and i think one of the dangers to your point, steve, is as that space shrinks they're going to need and want other sources. so that will look a lot like things that we've seen in the past. there's going to be elements of criminality attached to it. there's going to be smuggling still of oil in the case of middle east-based organizations. they're going to use resources that are at their command. you know, you've seen it with other terrorist groups, non-isla

entity in the world, al qaedaed in saudi arabia is completely beyond the pale. >> thank you. mr. golden berg, one of the demands from the gulf states was that qatar must close down the turkish military base. i get that they're concerned about the muslim brotherhood's influence but how important do you think this depend is in terms of regional stability and security? and is this one that should be dropped? >> thank you, congresswoman, for the question. i think that on the list of demands that the turkish air base is probably lower base is lower on the list of demands that the emiratis and saudis are lexing. in most conversations you hear them focusing more has to do what the countries might be doing in the press than some of the personal attacks at a certain point that the different sides are launching at each other right now. that's much more the source of the issue and the terror financing issue we've been talking about has been much more central to the debate than this turkish base. that frankly, there had been already a move for the turks to deploy some forces there a coup

you broke off from al qaeda, but it is an al qaeda derivative with a lot of the same ideology. if they keep that ideology and military tactics, we will have to work with the sod and russia -- work with president assad in russia to defeat them. there is no plausible way for us to do it by ourselves. host: we need another hour to talk about that. michael o'hanlon, thank you for being with us. your latest book, "beyond the nato," and your work available online at brookings. russian president vladimir putin gave a closing news conference yesterday at the g 20 summit. he talked about his meeting with president trump and their conversation about russian interference in the 2016 u.s. election. this 20 minute portion begins with a reporter's question on the russia-ukraine relationship. or do you think that russia and ukraine will continue to drift apart? and if you look at the of the representative who has been nominated, what do you think of that? the interest of russia and ukraine, the russian and ukrainian people's, i'm absolutely convinced of that, converge, coincide. our interests

he was a poster child for al qaeda.in the early days if you look at the old tapes of al qaeda he is always think these fiery speeches, poems, when seek it. he's training and he told his father, father, when i was in jail i learned a lot and you are going to be proud of me. i learned about this, i learned about that, but now i feel i forged by steel and i'm ready to march and your commandments. bin laden, from all the sons who released, he won only two people to come and join him. his wife, which has a phd, older than him, which is only one son, hamza, and his wife wasn't just a wife. she was his advisor here she was his wordsmith. she was his concierge, literally. he wanted her to come because he missed his wife after been in jail in iraq were seven, a district he wanted her to come and he threatened his committee come if you don't bring her here i will myself go up there and bring here in which his commanders, i think this guy lost his miter what do you mean you'll come and bring? but then you know why. because he want

entity in the world al qaeda in saudi arabia is completely beyond the pale. and mr. goldberg one of the demands from the gulf states was that qatar must close down the turkish military base. i am guess that they are concerned about the muslim brotherhood influenced but how important do you think this demand is in terms of regional stability and purity and is this one that should be dropped? >> thank you congressman for the question. i think on the list of demands that the turkish airbase is probably lower on the list of demands that they emirates are leveling in the most conversations when you hear them more has to do with the press and personal attacks that the different sites are launching at each other. that's more the source of the issue than the terror financing issue within talking about and much more central to the debate. frankly as there has been a move for the turks to point forces years ago and that when the crisis erupted they moved everything out and moved it to a symbolic is a good opportunity where the crisis and the moves back fired on some of

today that is the downside of of doing propaganda documentaries with the wee bit of a how up from al qaeda it's all awkward at the people peabody award ceremony it gets a little uncomfortable. anyway this story was broken by two of the best investigative journalists i know max blumenthal and been nor net alter net basically the man al-qaeda operatives now call their media man. kareem he's an american from new york who the saudi arabian news l.a. al arab media reported on june seventh that of dual karim officially joined al nasra in two thousand and twelve is basically al-qaeda in syria and apparently given like friendly fawning interviews to some of syria's most notorious jihad is figures so now c.n.n. is trying to minimize the work abdul karim did on their movie their very special movie their award winning documentary and he here's how this came out he was not happy about it it was he was it was very upset whether leave and leave him out now c.n.n. barely mentioned my name he said i'm telling you somehow c.n.n. must have forgotten that i was the one that filmed it i guess they forgot. i d

01’ only using them to defeat al-qaeda or isis.s in the last few months has been the way that groups who share very little in common otherwise have been prepared to bury their differences and work together on retaking mosul. prints of the passion burger, who are keen to see an independent kurdistan rather than exceed to the power of baghdad. they have a common enemy in islamic state, but if that common enemy is gone, state, but if that common enemy is o . state, but if that common enemy is gone, is there a chance they could turn on one another? by the way, isis is still there. it is in different places in iraq and western iraq. the fight will keep on. the rivalry is there between different shia factions and the kurds. they we re shia factions and the kurds. they were always thinking what would happen next. 0nce isis is out of the scene, not only in mosul but in all of iraq, first of all there will be a confrontation between the americans and the iranians. the 0bamas administration did not think of iran is their target, but isis as

because the issues of how groups like al qaeda, groups like daes h, successor groups are raising funds running war economies and developing global networks is more critical now than ever before. there has been much in the literature about the folly of .ollowing the money i think it is critical to think about how these types of groups are able to gain support, sustain themselves and build their networks and global ambition because of the support that they have. these issues are so important today. in terms of the rift, it is clear to me from an american standpoint, the rift is a burden and a barrier to cooperation. we have built our counterterrorist financing, our playbook around the idea we need allies onoperative the ground. not just in a bilateral context, but a regional context. and where we have had the most success in this regard and you know this from your work in yemen and elsewhere, where we have had the most success has been where light commanded allies are working together to gather information, gather around a common strategy and mission, and then figuring out where there is

eventually as we know what happens inprovince we get sunni tribes who kill al qaeda guys they turn. we turn the tribes it that come over to our side and -- about they help us take out the foreign fighters. that's way these kind of war tengd to go. now we have a number of battles within -- we have internal battles and external battles to try to get this doctrine done. one of them is numbering manual. manual set them 3 -- 24 initial memory for the manual was f mp3 -- 22, which meant it was the 22nd category under stability operations. we got in, and i showed up, i said this is among the team we talked about -- and we said this is difnlgt because of the level of violence involved and we felt it need its own category. so to the director at fort leavenworth i said i want to change the number on the manual like a monkey walked into the vatican and asked the pope to rearrange the old testament it was mass panic. whole doctrine system will collapse if you change this number. [laughter] two weeks later -- general petraeus had had the same idea and i guess they thought thought about it for tw

. >> mohamedou slahi was a sworn member of al qaeda and spent 14 years as prisoner 760 in guantanamo bay. how much english did you speak when you landed in guantanamo? >> almost none. >> improbably, while fighting for his own release, he taught himself english, wrote a best- selling book about his life in american custody and became good friends with some of his guards, one of whom you'll hear from tonight. do you think you might go and visit him now that he's been released? >> i would love to, someday. >> how did 271 pieces by pablo picasso, worth close to $100 million, end up in his handyman's garage for 40 years? that's what pablo picasso's son is trying to find out. >> the explanations were a bit murky, but i quickly understood that they must have stolen them. >> did you know immediately that they were real? >> yes. >> tonight, the story of the missing picassos, and the only two characters-- and we mean characters-- who know the truth. >> i'm steve kroft. >> i'm lesley stahl. >> i'm bill whitaker. >> i'm anderson cooper. >> i'm holly williams. >> pelley: i'm scott pelley. those s

best investigative journalists i know max blumenthal and bin nor net alter net basically the man al-qaeda operatives now call their media man bilawal abdulla karim he's an american from new york who the saudi arabian news l.a. al arab media reported on june seventh that of bill karim officially joined al nasra in two thousand and twelve is basically al qaeda in syria and apparently given like friendly fawning interviews to some of syria's most notorious jihad is figures so now c.n.n. is trying to minimize the work abdul karim did on their movie their very special movie their award winning documentary and he here's how this came out he was not happy about it it was he was it was very upset whether leavin leavin him out now c.n.n. barely mentioned my name he said i'm telling you some how c.n.n. must have forgotten that i was the one that filmed it i guess they forgot. i don't think they are for it but i think maybe c.n.n. doesn't want to make a big to do about the fact that they're hiring al qaida is american foreign ng medium and they're there they're not really inviting them to the red ca

i think al qaeda in some perverse way is laughing at us, we could have someone kill as u.s.d millions of dollars and receive as formal apology from the canadian government on top of that. the only perhaps silver lining to the whole situation is the widow of the u.s. soldier who was killed, as well as individual who was wounded in the firefight where omar cotter was taken, may get the part of that 8 million-dollar settlement as part of a wrongful death suit. this money may end up in the hands of somebody who should get money as opposed to this individual. canadian government, prime minister trudeau, they have made a grievous mistake here. given trajectory government, given their feelings on issues like this i'm not surprised. cheryl: i like way you think about wrongful death lawsuit. >> there is money for the widow and u.s. military who lost an eye in the firefight. this individual threw a grenade and killed one of our guys. cheryl: buck, thank you very much. great perspective from the story. that is incredible. we're following breaking news out of illinois today. remember th

a lot of the people turned against al-qaeda. they said a lot of that happened because they knew we were coming and we were in for the long haul. the worst thing you can do is announce a surge with a deadline because what that does, it takes away any incentive from the people you're trying to help to stay with you because you're telling them you're going to leave. and the bad guys, of course, aren't going to leave. so the surge and president bush's announcements of support reinforced the urge of a lot of iraqis to rise up against al-qaeda. also you got the richard to hannon and kenneth pollack piece in july which says the surge is working which changes the democratic political debates of how we're going to get out of iraq quick to how do we exploit the surge. even though i was knee aye at the time, doctrine itself was a major information weapon. it was sent to congress, it was sent out to all major leaders. it not only convinced the army we knew how to fight this kind of war with, it also convinced our enemies we did also. it tur