why to make a linear park that connected parks so he hired alexander garvin who is a world-famous city planner who i also got to know through this to come down here and to try to figure out what kind of a parks you could have and atlanta is severely under parked. we have a lot of trees in this city, beautiful trees, but most of them aren't people's backyards, not in public places. in metro atlanta, which is this huge sprawling mess up 6 million people or so now, they are losing land at an alarming rate, losing trees at an alarming rates. so, where was i? [laughter] >> let me mention while i'm thinking about it, my mother here is the author of a book called "neighborhood naturalist" and she hopes to start trees atlanta with a woman named marsha began fully, which has turned into a huge organization which is building on arboretum on the beltline. oh, i know i was talking about alexander gardner, so they came down and got in a helicopter to look around this whole area and see what they might see and suddenly he said, what is that. there was a huge hole in the ground, a quarry in westside