itically, what it means is is going to be skinnier at the end, a skinnier repealed and where they started. if they want a full repeal, they can't pass that -- it's not like some bill is being drafted somewhere that everybody knows of and can agree on. there's a couple of things they will probably be able to get 50 votes on, things like the individual mandate, repealing --t, the employer mandate they expect those are the things they can squeak through. at the end of all this procedural stuff, they will be able to pass something, even if it's kind of small. host: that allows them to do what next? guest: then, they take that something that they have passed and they go to conference. they meet back up with the house , the house passed their own they got something through and then they try to reconcile their differences and figure out some sort of bill everybody can agree on. it is a big risk for some moderates to vote for a skinny repeal because it goes over to the house, which is more with moreve conservative members who have a real say and then they have to figure out what kind of bill and

that have built into the framework of constitution, we're going to take on more debt, it is in some itical culture cases of spending. but i would caution, i don't try to ink political party fiscal performance. i think you have to look long-running choices over period year, legislature and governors and it falls within parties. host: the center provides a map. states like maryland, kentucky, new jersey, top florida, dakotas,ut sxut wyoming. florida is a case study, a lot people, retirees, what are they doing right? guest: several things. they managed to lower spending per capita since the year 2000. aboutave been disciplined spending. this is a state that is conservative in how it saves money. has good, strong fiscal reserve. manages debt well. of debt to e a lot take on current spending, pension liabilities are anageable relative to other states, some scholars have suggested they have term limits factor in fiscal health, this is a well managed state. wisconsin, martin, h hi. guest: good morning. thank you for c-span. i have to take a slight eileen ment with norcross in that i do think poli

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the trump organization attorney in 2015, he brought folders bearing the names of former students 5,itical of the defunct program. but now the stakes couldn't be higher, and he's trying to t scredit the special counsel. difellow republican who was praised by none other than newt gingrich, who tweeted that mueller's reputation "is impeccable for honesty and integrity." attorney general jeff sessions discussed campaign related issues with russia's ambassador contradicting his public statements. a spokesman says he had no >>nversations with russians about any campaign or election. anthony. >> >> mason: julianna goldman, thanks. members of congress have a message for the president: don't antagonize the special counsel. you could regret it. here's chief congressional hirrespondent nancy cordes. st it would prompt a fire storm. >> reporter: members of both e waies are warning the president not to mess with mueller. >> firing bob mueller without cause is an attack on the rule of law. >> reporter: it sort of looks paranoid to me. >> reporter: republican michael licaul chairs the house homeland sec

are we hearing more about itic now? there are people across america and the world who are dealing with loved ones that have brain cancer. >> it's on the increase and we are discovering it more. >> do we know why it's increasing? >> we don't know why. it may be due to more radiation in the air. with senator mccain it may be relateed to his melanoma. we are definitely finding more now with the mri. before that we never caught it until the very end. >> i am not saying the democrats or republicans divide the line on something like this. he goes across party lines. one of his statements to reporters over the last 3 week, i wish we did the health care thing on regular order. so many democrats feel he split parties. joe biden should a statement too. he is strong and he will beat this. his son just succumbed to brain cancer. >> and vice-president biden is part of the moon shot. how close are we being able to cure cancer. >> it's part of this immuno-therapy idea. that's part of the moon shot and the cure for cancer act that was

it always struck me that if it had been ken itic warfare if someone fired so much as one shot by wayhe cyberwarfare that had been warfare that had been committed we would maybe treat it with more urgency and be better as our defenses counteringing that. >> what do you playbook of it. >> what i make of it is an president that doesn't understand cybersecurity and cyberissues and seems to be in denial that russia actually hacked, broke the law in the united states, used that information as a weapon to interfere with our election. the fundamental democracy of this nation was attacked. it is a very serious problem. and for the president to even consider and to come back and do one of his infamous tweets saying they're going to work with russia on cybersecurity. in one sense it's laughable. but in another sense this is the president of the united states that doesn't have a clue or maybe he knows exactly what has happened. >> i want to ask you about something that you are justifiably proud of. and there is a chance that a couple of our viewers are among the 30,000 american families who have

also faced iticism on saturday for retweeting a doctored clip of the movie "tom gun," edited so that it appears president trump is a fighter pilot shooting down a jet with the cnn logo. this comes less than a week after president trump faced criticism for tweeting a doctored video of himself body slamming and beating a figure whose head has been replaced by the cnn logo. the trump white house is also considering blocking a pending merger between time warner -- cnn's parent company- and at&t amid trump's escalating feud with the network. meanwhile, another one of trump's children, ivanka trump, also sparked criticism when she took her father's seat briefly at the g20 summit, sitting between british prime minister theresa may and chinese president xi jinping. the move was widely criticized back in the united states given training trump is a businesswoman with no diplomatic express of no elected position in the administration. "new york times" columnist nicholas kristoff tweeting -- "ivanka fills in for her dad beside xi jinping. to me, it feels banana-republicky for the u.s. to be repr

--itical reporting on it appliance nations on a chinese bank, a chinese company and individuals in anffort to ratchet up pressure on a crackdown on north korea's weapons program. the pressure so far has only increased tensions, but it does not appear to show movement in china's actions. the new york times reporting on monday that in a phone call donald trump told the leader of china that they are prepared to take on north korea alone. on tuesday republican moniker said it was not enough. i commend the trumpet menstruation for sanctions last week against entities, including attorneys financial institution, but they should only be the first step. cory gardner of colorado in a statement yesterday, if china fails to act, as it has to date, its relationship with the u.s. cannot remain the same. we need to use every diplomatic and economic tool that we have not prevent nuclear war. have to prevent nuclear war. action,upport military or new negotiations,, or other options, please call. linda from williamsburg, virginia, why do you support military action? caller: good morning. with northotia

other branches going on in other branches of government, and this institution continues its solid, itical,ng to be apolot even as the gloves come off in the political branch. that will behind the mind of the chief justice and also to justice kennedy who saw his own court go through an unstable time and now seeing this kind of theual situation with president and the congress. if that motivates those two center-right judges to maybe seek more common ground with the dividedthat this country maintain some level of confidence in the court, they may see that as a priority. know -- with things better, they matter and court will move where the majority takes it. ms. slattery: any thoughts? mr. daley: i wonder if the chief to not -- in remarks he made a conference in pennsylvania. he reiterated this view that he wants to avoid justices writing on their own as much as possible, that he prefer they not see themselves as separate but as members of a court and that the court should speak with one voice. >> his voice. mr. daley: i wondered if that remark was not in some way directed to justice gorsuch.

is that iticity generous if we are lindsey if we are doom to go that direction with all health insurance country will be bankrupt deficit will continue to grow one of rand's major issues with repeal the senate is looking at right now my question to you what does happen what is likelihood of a repeal and then clean replace? >> i don't think so there is hardly any i think, dagen's point i think -- made a point that it is -- going bankrupt, and yeah, it is and they can't tinker and manage it differently, doesn't work that way. so whether in monetary system he foreign policy medical care i want to present case what we should do do our best taking in this case we can get meantime prepare for bankruptcy, because it will come, and we will have our way we will get -- under those circumstances more people suffer than if we legalize you know, the -- the rights to take care of ourselves, but people aren't willing to do that. >> i think we are going to see big bankruptcy first. >> i want to go from the legals to illegal there are 20 sanctuary cities pledging to make one million immigrants u.s. citiz

itically, what it means is is going to be skinnier at the end, a skinnier repealed and where they started they want a full repeal, they can't pass that -- it's not like some bill is being drafted somewhere that everybody knows of and can agree on. there's a couple of things they will probably be able to get 50 votes on, things like the individual mandate, repealing --t, the employer mandate they expect those are the things they can squeak through. at the end of all this procedural stuff, they will be able to pass something, even if it's kind of small. host: that allows them to do what next? guest: then, they take that something that they have passed and they go to conference. they meet back up with the house , the house passed their own they got something through and then they try to reconcile their differences and figure out some sort of bill everybody can agree on. it is a big risk for some moderates to vote for a skinny repeal because it goes over to the house, which is more with moreve conservative members who have a real say and then they have to figure out what kind of bill and mayb