jeffrey gettleman joins me now, thank you. >> thank you. >> brown: this is a place, a region you have looked at for a long time, in a certain voice right? as journalist. but now you're presenting a different voice. what is this? >> well, i feel very conflicted about my work sometimes in africa because as journalist, we focus on conflict. we focus on argument and dispute. >> brown: this is the way we hear about africa most of the time. >> and this is true for all journalists. but my job as a journalist in east africa, i'm often steeped in these conflicts. but that wasn't why i came to east africa in the first place. i came on a safari as a student and was blown away by the warmth, by the sense of connectedness between people. like just a different way of life, and so this book, to me, is a bit of an escape. you know, often we get frustrated with what's happening in today's world. we feel sort of the woes of the world on our back. and i wanted to write a book that celebrated something that meant a lot to me. >> brown: you were drawn to this place, it wasn't real obvious why. >> but i th