mr. mcfarlane that admiral poindexter, that is jmp, isn't it? lt. col. north: yes it is. mr. nields: he asked that you prepare a paper for the president. that is "our boss," isn't it? lt. col. north: he is indeed. -- nields: and letting out and laying out the arrangements. that refers to the arrangement in exhibit one. lt. col. north: that is correct. mr. nields: far from telling you to stop sending memoranda up for the president's approval, admiral poindexter was specifically asking you to send memoranda up for the president's approval. lt.

mr. mcfarlane, that admiral poindexter, that's jmp, isn't it? north: yes, it is. john nields jr: had asked that you prepare a paper for the president. north: that's correct. john nields jr: that's our boss, isn't it? correct. john nields jr: that's our boss, isn't it? north: he is, indeed. john nields jr: and "laying out the arrangements," and that refers, does it not, to the description of the transaction, which is in exhibit number one? north: that's correct. john nields jr: so far from telling you to stop sending memoranda up for the president's approval, admiral poindexter was specifically asking you to send memoranda up for the president's approval? north: well, again, in this particular case, that's true, mr. nields, and i don't believe that i have said that admiral poindexter told me to stop. did i? john nields jr: did -- where are these memoranda? north: which memoranda? john nields jr: the memoranda that you sent up to admiral poindexter seeking the president's approval. north: well, they're probably these books to my left that i haven't looked through ye

mr. mcfarlane and his party. >> it involves contra support. and complaining about the fact that investors have in getting paid from the proceeds after the sale. >> the problem with the revelation is he told him, as i remember it, that he already congress thats of moneys from the sale of weapons had been diverted to the use of the countries. >> you gave us notebooks. do you know what the names are? lt. col. north: i will sure wouldn't want be an actor on that. >> the director was talking about divergent. lt. col. north: the concerns director addressed to me is you have to shoot down the -- airplane. other people are very aware of the fact that the arms sales to iran generated ones that have gone to support -- and did he say, this had been called to members one starting the investigation? lt. col. north: i don't recall. you therefore were told to get rid of memorandum that reflected fat? lt. col. north: i was told to clean up the finals. toto get rid of memorandum -- throughnt that you went your files to make sure that you found the memorandum t

mr. mcfarlane? lt. col. north: i don't know how i can tell that, from whati'm looking at. mr.ields: well, if you look right up above the reply denoteof 4/7/86, it says, to rcm. lt. col. north: right. mr. nields: and it's dated the 7th of april, 1986. lt. col. north: right. mr. nields: and that's three days after the date of the termsof reference on exhibit one. you can check if you wish, or you can take my word for it. it's dated april 4. lt. col. north: will you take my word? mr. sullivan: what is your question? mr. nields: i haven't asked a question yet. i'm simply, well, the question is, isn't this 3 days after the date on theterm of reference on exhibit one? lt. col. north: apparently it is. mr. nields: and this prof message makes reference to mr. ghorbanifar in the first line? lt. col. north: yes, it does. mr. nields: and it makes reference to the $15 million in line three? lt. col. north: that's correct. mr. nields: and then, in line six, it reads, per request of jmp, have prepared a paper for our boss, which lays arrangements. lt. col. north: that is what it says. mr. n

mr. mcfarlane after your conversation with the attorney general? lt. col. north: i believe i spoke to mr. mcfarlane and admiral poindexter. this is after the attorney general. >> when you talk to mr. mcfarland after you have met with the attorney general, did he ask you what happened at that meeting? lt. col. north: i suppose he did, or i volunteered it -- one or the other. >> do you recall telling mr. mcfarland about the fact that they had found the memoranda? lt. col. north: yes, i did. >> do you remember telling him that you were asked about who knew? lt. col. north: i don't remember that part. it was a profoundly difficult time because that memorandum was not supposed to exist. >> did i understand you to say a moment ago that if admiral poindexter had not told you on friday that he had not told the president, you may well have told the attorney general that the president did know? >> that is a very confusing question, mr. chairman. could you restate it, sir? >> did you just testify a few moments ago that had admiral poindexter not told you on that frida

mr. robert c: mcfarlane, admiral john poindexter, and cia director, william casey. bud mcfarlane is a man who devoted nearly thirty-year of his life to public service in a number of responsible positions. at the nsc, he worked long hours, made great contributions, and i admire him for those efforts. admiral poindexter is a distinguished naval officer who served in a number of important positions of responsibility. he, too, was a tireless worker with a similar record of public service, and i, too, admire him greatly. william casey was a renowned lawyer, a war veteran of heroic proportions, and a former chairman of the sec. i understood that he was also a close personal friend and adviser to president reagan. there is a nearly a century of combined public service by these three men. as a member of the nsc staff, i knew that i held a position of responsibility. but i knew full well what my position was. i did not engage in fantasy that i was the president or vice president or cabinet member, or even director of the national security council. i was simply a staff member