iraq, al which had been defeated, and basically said, we will protect sunnis from the regime of nouri al-maliki. isis was theded last of the two evils and explains how isis managed to sweep and through a third of iraq. if the government of iraq had been formed in a better way, iraq would have set a model for other countries in the region and you would not have isis rising up. syria could be very different than what we are seeing today. what we are seeing in the middle east is not really an issue of borders. it is an issue of competitive politics. a crisis of governance. argues this is the medically in her book. i really encourage people to read the book. she makes a case she just made orally. i'm again asking you to be a little contrarian. i was talking about your book "the wise men," and this legacy of american leadership in foreign policy with a mutual friend of ours, bob, who has written wonderful histories, a polk, butf james k. was deeply skeptical about the intervention, he thought, of american power. conservative, but very much limited government. and i said, bob, you ought to about this