ambassador robert holyman, former u.s. trade representative under president obama, david sicoin, ey a assistant professor r to george washington, and niles s thank you for being here. we know putin said they didn't have anything to do with it the let me start with you and get your take, professor on, you know, what's your take about what happened during this two and a half hour meeting >> well, first off, we don't know what happened because it was a small meeting. only the two foreign ministers and the two presidents were allowed and we don't have a transcript, a videotaping. we have to take all the participants at their word after the briefing. what we do know is that president trump supposedly pressed putin on the issue of interference in our election. we don't know the contents or the tone of exactly how he did that. putin responded by denying it. however, now we've got two narratives that have emerged after meeting. the foreign minister said that the president, president trump accepted that denial. on the other hand, t