i joked to my american friends here in california in particular, i said i left brittain to avoid this populist nativism and right-wing xenophobia. and i come to california -- [ laughter ] >> and it's five inches a day for seven weeks. and the whole identity of the guntr country. it's interesting for an outsider. as someone who's long been involved in a small extent to politics, i've always felt with almost everything i believed firmly is i've hated those on my own side who bully the enemy or that they are our opponents, and i think of what's happened here is much more a failure of the left than a triumph of the right. and when i hear people say we've got to do this, demonstrate about that, i say who, whom, whom are you thinking you will convince by appearing on the street or shouting or -- whose mind are you going to change? >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> i'm practical fellow. and i think if you do want the society to change or the political outlook to change, then you've got to think practically about it, rather than being right. anybody can be right and scream that they're right. you've go