what was revolutionary about what charlie parker was doing? and it's really interesting about the level of musicianship that used to be in popular music. i mean these guys were amazing musicians. and they were trained, and they had a very sophisticated ear. chet used to have this thing, he'd say, man, you know, the average musician, he's talking about the 50s, you know, about what miles particularly, and charlie parker, and dizzy were doing. so exciting. as i started to learn, you know once you learn what they're talking about, then you start to hear it. and then it gets much more exciting. - right. well it's exciting now to think about these guys as the subjects of movies. you know, don cheadle is about to be miles davis in a film. how great to have these stories told. now i want to ask why you made this choice now, so the linklater film all those years ago notwithstanding, you've just come off of boyhood. not the most commercially successful film, but maybe the most critically successful film in almost 30 years, a little bit more than 30 yea

charlie: ashley parker of the "washington post." back in a moment. with us. ♪ charlie: this week, the continuing drama of the trump administration. steve bannon is out as the president's chief political advisor. the administration was pulled off topic by the fallout from charlottesville. president trump's comments put him at odds with many americans. including top military and business leaders, as well as fellow members of the republican party. joining me in washington with more on this is mike allen, the s, and theof axio editor of the "axios" newsletter. tell me about steve bannon. what is the latest we know about his survival? mike: he's not surviving. the president has decided he will go the highest profile firing from the white house. steve bannon is telling colleagues he resigned on august 7, but to be effective a week later. that would coincide with the one-year anniversary of him coming into the trump campaign. charlie, we are told that the offenses for steve bannon, the reason he ran afoul one,e president, were, leaking -- which is ironic in

charlie: ashley parker of the "washington post." back in a moment. with us. ♪ ♪ charlie: this week, the continuing drama of the trump administration. steve bannon is out as the president's chief political advisor. administration was pulled off topic by the fallout from charlottesville. president trump's comments put him at odds with many americans. joining me in washington with more on this is mike allen, the editor of the "axiom" newsletter. tell me about steve bannon. what is the latest we know about his survival? >> he is not surviving. the president decided he will go , the highest profile firing from this white house. steve bannon is telling colleagues he resigned on august 7, but to be effective a week later. that would coincide with the one-year anniversary of him coming into the trump campaign. the leading offenses, the reason he ran afoul of the president, were leaking, which is ironic in this white house. charlie, you know how everyone --much everyone weeks, including the president. but the president believed steve bannon was leaking on wes