this is dan o'neil and his wife jenny.r tandem bike in california and decided to ride it clear across the united states and live that dream that they had always talked about. in the case of riding a bicycle especially on a tandem like this, you really start to take in everything around you. the scenery, the sights, the smells. the weather, all of it perfect for a 98-day trip. >> wait. but isn't retirement about sitting at the beach and drinking yourself to sleep every night? >> that could be one of the things. but this trip is also about meeting people as well. boy, did they meet some interesting characters. >> we saw a ufo abducted us. >> oh, really? >> oh, my gosh! >> but i think one of the coolest moments was when they were in st. louis. they just happened to be in the right place at the right time to experience this. that's the thunder birds. if you notice there, there's also a chase plane getting pictures and video. they even managed to go onto the thunder birds website and get the picture of the planes and in the bot

dan rostenkowski, the chairman of the ways and means committee in the house, was for it. tip o'neill, democratic speaker of the house, was for it. we had bob packwood and other really -- bill bradley, brilliant people on the finance committee, democrat and republican. they were for it. and it still took five years to do it. it still took five years to do it. really hard stuff. but we need to get serious about it, and we need to get going. at the end of the day, my hope is we will end up being revenue neutral. my hope is we will be revenue neutral. i hope at the end of the day what we actually do is answer these four questions. is it fair? does it foster economic growth? does it make the tax code less complex or more complex? and finally, how does it affect our fiscal situation, our budget situation? and my hope is we can answer those -- keep those questions in our mind as we formulate tax reform and answer them in an appropriate way. i think -- i see my colleague here. he is waiting to -- with whom i serve on the finance committee and on the environment and public works committee. he