, which is very interesting, because he lives in maryland, and if you think all the way back to linda tripp, you may remember that taming pho taping phone calls in maryland is illegal, so that will be an interesting wrinkle as well. >> okay. robbie, what do you think? >> yeah, i mean, look, ken's a very experienced lawyer. i have nothing to bring on the legal end of this but i want to reinforce the point that was already made, just how sick this is. this was a young man who was in political work, not unlike myself and a lot of other people who do this, and he was killed, and his parents are grieving, and just the fact that anyone, let alone the president of the united states, or anyone in the -- people who claim to be media would be doing this is just reprehensible and i think we should be supporting and grieving with this family and not -- just nobody should be engaged in this kind of behavior. it's sad. >> ken cuccinelli and robbie mook, thank you both so much. >>> and just a reminder to all of you, we are moments away from seeing the president himself. he has invited a number of small bu