when you sat down with michael ma mann. was there something you were waiting for him to say that made you feel relieved that it got to the right person? >> michael say very early draft copy of the book, was so excited about it right from the beginning. and the things he liked about it were the things that i loved about the story. and that is, as you were describing, in his remarks, the fact that it built by person by person by person. it's not a traditional historical narrative where you have an omnicient historian telling you. it's moment by moment with people who were trapped in this fight and that's the thing that michael mann felt about the story. i've seen his movies and i think he's an amazing talent. he's made some great motion pictures and tv shows, and you know, and frankly, he's the kind of guy who can command the resources it takes to realistically portray something on this scale. i mean, i'm sure he'll want to go to vietnam to shoot. i'm sure this is going to be a series that will have many hundreds of actors in

the producer and director of all be between eight and ten hoursth in the end is michael mann. he has said this, in mark's bo book, there are no background people, people abstracted into statistics or body counts.s. there's a sense that everybody somebody as each is in the actuality of their own lives. the brilliance of the narrative, the achievement of interviewing hundreds of people on all sides and making the human story hisdi foundation is how it rises to the emotional power and universal of whom the bell tolls. that is high praise.gh praise. >> up lesson from partisan[l character. but thank you for sitting with us. >> thank you for inviting me. can we talk a little bit to orient folks who may not be as familiar as they should be with this and bloodiest of the vietnam battles. i think that's an controversial. i wonder if there are any key misconceptions about the offensive in january and february 1960 that help focus your work on this book, five years in the making? >> the more i learned about this battle, the more surprising was that it wasn't widely known and remembered.

climate scientist michael mann wrote this -- "harvey was almost certainly more intense than it would have been in the absence of human-caused warming, which means stronger winds, more wind damage and a larger storm surge." we go now to houston to speak ash robert bullard, known the father of environmental justice, a distinguished professor at texas southern university. the former director of the environmental justice resource center at clark atlanta university. we are reaching him from his home in houston, which he needs to evacuate later this morning due to the rising brazos river. foressor bullard, thank you being with us. can you talk about the situation you are in and so many people in houston are in right now? scene for us. and then how you relate it to your life's work, to the issue of climate change and environmental justice. >> well, good morning, and thank you for having me. the aftermath, the flooding of houston and the -- this is areas, is nightmare. the images that you see on television and you hear the voices of people who have been just totally destroyed. and this is a