for more on apple, i want to bring in michael wolff, ceo and cofounder of tech consulting firm, activateael, what are you feeling? michael: first of all, even though global pc sales are down, mac sales are up. the ipad, everyone viewed tablets, forecasting the end of tablets. their tablet units are up 15%. even though this is the time where everybody waits to buy a new phone, the iphone sales were slightly up, but they were down, they were flat. vonnie: if you are an apple aficionado, you had to wait a long time or a six, so you might have been able to buy the phonee mac but not a real that was any different from , soious phones or the ipads maybe they were just satisfying a niche. michael: i think it was more than that. and the is relevant, bigger formats have worked for them, so the larger format ipad, the larger format phone. they are really showing that people want a larger format and they want a new device. a lot of the sales increase on the max was the increase the pricing but to your point, people are still really hooked on macs. vonnie: it seems like apple is recognizing that ser