impact the president's global message we are joined by the council on foreign relations president richard haassauthor of "a world in disarr disarray" which has been turned into an hbo documentary. richard, thanks for being here. >> thanks, becky. >> i've spoken with ceos who have said, yeah, when we met with the president we felt like he was actually listening to us. we felt like it changed his opinions at times and they felt like what they were doing was valuable service by showing up not just to these councils but some of the meetings he had called as well if this is the way we are painting it, kind of a break between the ceos and the white house, what does that mean >> well, look, what it is, it's probably an inevitable switch. i would argue that a lot of what donald trump is doing is not particularly good for american business the trade policy is bad for american business, much of the immigration policy is bad for american business. and it also shows you the difference between the political world ceos work in and with donald trump, they can't isolate themselves. >> although, what you're tal