that's when originally they thought it was richard jewel, but it was eric rudolph dumps a bag.e congregations of people and there was no security bags or anything checked. >> was that the this event changed everything? >> it did. obviously -- really what's amazing about the documentary is that it's sort of a steady drum beat to obviously 9/11, even though there's a focus on domestic terrorism towards the end of the decade, you also start to see the rise of al qaeda, you have the original world trade center bombing, but then of course, bin laden with the africa embassy bombings, and the irony of the '90s when it comes to the threat both domestic and then of course international is the cold war was over. and we won, right? everyone' thinking, peace will reign -- >> false sense of security. >> the steady drum beat. and on the domestic terrorism side, what's animating all of them is antifederal and the oklahoma city bombing and tim mcvaig access to weapons. and also wanting to play to the media. i think that's the lesson of columbine, the school shooter that shocked the world, but