in a romcom, you're just all skirting across the top.e dramas more monday morning? absolutely, but they're a whole lot more honest. i didn't make that sound that hard. ( laughter ) but that's what i mean. >> stephen: well, okay, so, now, how would you characterize this is a drama as sort of a thriller drama, stephen king's dark tower in the movie. >> tim man in black, the devil incarnate. this is big summer fun blockbuster stuff from stephen king who's given us many great nightmares in the past. >> stephen: sure. this is the mythic good versus evil and there's the knight, roland the gun slinger -- and i've had him chasing me for thousands of years in this multi-universe place we are. the tower is the vortex that holds the universe together. you know how it goes. i want to bring that tower down, right? ( applause ) i want to bring it down, he wants to keep it up. now, can he do that? he's got to get rid of me first. i don't know. you have to see the movie, i don't think he can see it. >> stephen: he is a knight, his guns are made from exc