both you bill rhoden and craig hodges, two of my heroes. being with me this morning. >> what's up noah and clo? peace. >> praming note. today marks the beginning of global citizen week here on msnbc. series of events that will take place across new york city and culminate with the 2017 global citizen festival in central park next saturday. later today, i'll be at river side church in manhattan for an afternoon of dynamic performances and key speakers commemorating the 50th anniversary of dr. martin luther king's beyond vietnam speech. the event called breaking the silence, beyond the dream will be an intergenerational, interfaith program that calls on people from all walks of life to rise up and speak out on injustices facing the world just as dr. king did at river side church 50 years ago. you can watch it, too. it will be live streamed on globalcitizen.org. up next, why does education secretary betsy devoss, what is she trying to do by changing title nine? i'll be right back. this this this this is my body of proof. proof of less joint pa

joining me now is jason reid, a senior nfl writer for espn.com's "the undefeated" and craig hodges, formerion with the chicago bulls and author of the book "long shot." craig, it is a real question that i have in my head when the president now come out saying people shouldn't go to the games until they stop disrespecting the flag. so is he now trying to one up the boycott many of us have said don't go to the games until kaepernick is reinstated? now if he tells people don't go to the game, people won't know whether the numbers are down because the president has called on people not to go whether someone was in the civil rights community. let me show you this tweet he just recently put up encouraging people to -- he put up a few minutes ago today telling people don't go to the game. it says "if nfl fans refuse to go to games until players stop disrespecting our flag & country, you'll see change take place fast. fire or suspend." so he is trying to kind of front end or interfere with those that are boycotting on behalf of kaepernick? >> well, first of all, reverend al, i want to thank god fo

are interest rates too low joining us in our "closing bell" exchange today, craig hodges from hodges capital management, keith bliss is here with us at post 9 rick santelli checks in from chicago. julian robertson has seen himself, his share of bull and bear markets -- >> yeah, got a little experience, julian du. >> if you look at traditional metrics, he's absolutely right on look at the s&p 500 p/e ratio, above 2,500. the median is around 1,500 sure, it's extended. here's the counterargument to it, number one, it's not close to getting back to where we were extended back in the 2000 timeframe in even 1995 when we had the irrational exuberance comments moreover, we're getting to these valuations today is a lot different than where we got to back in 2000 and 1995. the third thing i would say is back then investors were buying everything they could to get in the market they've been comfortable with these valuations for several years now. so if they're comfortable with p/es expanding and staying there is, t the market overvalued or e a new paradigm i suggest we have a new paradigm the o

in the '90s you had craig hodges so sports and politics have gone hand in hand in some way shape or form. and you saw jimmy kimmel last week and health care but it seems more than ever that norm is being broken in that it seems more prevalent than ever before. >> it really does. and the contrasts that are happening from this administration and from this president, the kind of insert politics into all avenues of what you say, you know, it's happened before. but it seems like we can't escape it at any turn. we'll continue to follow this, josh. great work over at politico. thank you so much. great to see you as always. so we'll take a look at the legal side of all of this. i want to bring in alan dershowitz, harvard law school professor emeritus and an author. great to have you with me. so we've got jared kushner and through his lawyer confirming the fact of using a private e-mail that was set up after they won. right? the trump team winning and they did this in december. how problematic is it? >> i think it's an exampl of hypocrisy on both sides. the democrats are saying, oh, what he did i

joining us is the ceo of hodges capital management, and craig as a value investor how much tougher is, it's not that much tougher. it's been a very, very narrow market as everyone's aware i am seeing some healthy signs of, you know, some of the momentum stocks slowing down and some of the laggards catching up so i do believe that there are opportunities, a lot of opportunities out there. and that's what we're seeing at hodges capital >> let's talk about some of those opportunities. american airlines you think is one of those stocks that is prepared to take off if you pardon the pun. >> yes >> it's kind of surprising to think about that because there are have been so many people who have talked about the airlines going back to years and years ago, warren buffett saying it more recently. what do you see here >> you know, the airline business has totally changed we've gone from way too many competitors to really only now we have four airlines. and it's now investable. buffett's now a big owner in your latest conversation, i'm not sure if you mentioned the airlines, but we see that as a r