>> yes. >> shepard: harold ford. might give him a call and see what he's doing.nteresting. thanks, judge. >> always a pleasure. >> shepard: they'll shut things down on wall street. we're a little down now. just off a few points. neil cavuto with the best in business as the fox news channel daytime rolls on in just three minutes. hi. so i just got off the phone with our allstate agent, and i know that we have accident forgiveness. so the incredibly minor accident that i had tonight... four weeks without the car. okay, yep. good night. with accident forgiveness, your rates won't go up just because of an accident. switching to allstate is worth it. your rates won't go up just because of an accident. when food is good and clean and real, it's ok to crave. and with panera catering, there's more to go around. panera. food as it should be. >> neil: all right. this could be tax cut eve. welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. tomorrow is the day, the day that donald trump and the g.o.p. roll out details of the tax cut the president says will be the biggest since ronald reag

harold ford junior, alise jordan, and steve schmidt, and eugene robinson and robert costa. let's start at the top with democratic minority leaders chuck schumer and nancy pelosi saying they've struck a deal to protect undocumented immigrants brought to america as children. sources say the deal was reached over dinner last night at the white house. the democratic leaders told the president they can deliver the votes to pair the existing drooem act bill with additional border security, but funding that does not include the mexican border wall. more specifics yet to be disclosed. in a statement schumer and pelosi said, quote, we agreed to enshrine the protections of daca into law quickie and to work out a package of border security for the wall that's acceptable. the president tweeted this morning, no deal was made last night on daca. massive board security could have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. would be subject to vote. he then added the wall which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls will be built. does

harold ford. >> he is in a tough spot.ht the d.r.e.a.m.ers program had worked and if he believed it was working and had worked, why wouldn't he advocate for some sort of continuation or at least urge the president to lay out some sort of predicate for the congress to follow. he was hard to follow in one way because i -- he said for ten years they'd been trying to do this. this president put himself on the line -- the former president put himself on the line to do something. the current president put himself on the line to protect our borders from what he believes terrorists coming from seven other nations. >> predominantly muslim nations. he put himself on the line politically, legally, in terms of the constitution, to ban people from predominantly muslim countries. >> i ask my former colleagues because i don't remember. if this thing expires in march and you are serving in the military, what happens? >> i think you lose any claim to status, to protected status. >> you're serving the country with a gun and you are no longe

professor at the university of michigan school of public policy, democratic congressn harold ford jr. and associate editor for the washington post, david ignatius and eugene robinson. great group to talk about what really matters this morning. >> let's do that. do you want, really quickly, before -- let get a quick roundup from yesterday. >> sure. >> harold ford, what was your take on that? >> i listened to mnuchin and the president. whatever you think of these young men and their approach to this peaceful protest, they have every right to do it. i found it odd that the president could find no good on that young side of these young men saying that some sort of talk about social injustice and racial inequality ought to be put forward. i was pleased to see robert kraft, steve kisch and other owners stand with their players and said we're a league that tries our hardest to stand with everyone and these young men have every right to try to make their country better. >> gene, what was your take of the eepts over the weekend? >> i was surprised at the power of the statements from some of th

we have ms nbc political analyst school of public policy, former democratic congre congressman harold ford jr.. >> this seems like the tennessee mafia. . >> and because he's smart. and he reads them. senior politics reporter at the usa today, heidi brinide heidi joins us. >> what a sad day. >> we will go through the details. roy moore coming up to washington, d.c., you know, there is reason donald trump didn't support that guy. he will do exactly what he wants to do and in the age of political free agency is about to get aamped up to such a degr good luck, mitch mcconnell and republicans. >> roy moore had a lot working against him in terms of trump, mitch mcconnell. all that money pumped into that race by establishment republicans and he won by what ten points? so it was not close. that's a huge sweeping defeat for the establishment for the president who delete all his tweets now in support of luther strange. >> really? >> they're not going to have to defend roy moore through this election and a lot of the things he said, if he wins, which will se expected to do, he will be a thorn in thei

break all of this down for us, i'm joined now by rick tyler, cofounder at foundry strategies, and harold fordr. . you refuse to shorten it, even though i have asked you to numerous times, harvey funding will get tied to the debt ceiling it looks like. steve mnuchin was talking about that over the weekend. >> we believe it should be tied to the harvey funding. we want the state to get money, it is critical, if i don't have the ability to borrow more money and pay for it, we can't get that money to the state. >> you said it well at the outset. the president, mistakically said that he could not support a debt ceiling increase. this makes it easier for him and frankly because they're only doing it as a down payment, they will have to come back two or three times so there will be time to add additional things. so tax reform that is still unlikely to happen, but because you have the harvey funding, it's more likely than not more things will get down. >> i was going to say it allowi wall being included. though tying harvey to the debt ceiling, rick, is there going to be an issue or potential show do

and harold ford, jr., former democratic congressman from the great state of tennessee. kim, we usually say that donald trump does best against an opponent. this is one of those moments in life where he needs 535 friends under that dome on capitol hill. >> this is absolutely true. but we've seen him treat even the leaders, the gop leaders in congress, as enemies on more than one occasion, particularly when it comes to legislation that he wants them to pass. there's also a pattern here where the white house will set out priorities, including daca, saying congress, fix daca without giving any indication of what he wants congress to do, what kind of bill that he would actually sign, if they do pass something, addressing immigration reform in part or something broader, even republican senator marco rubio asked, out and out asked the white house, what do you want us to do and there wasn't a real response to that. i think we can expect to see this frenemy relationship with members of congress, particularly those in his own party, continue. >> let's ask a former frenemy of 534

republican strategist steve schmit and former democratic congressman from the state of tennessee, harold ford jr. let's start with who loses here. in theory, i believe it was donald trump who ran for president and won. repeal and replace is something he, along with other republicans, promised over and over again. yet today he will successfully turn this as a fail for mitch mcconnell but not him. >> 100%. you know, look, it's the greatest broken political promise in american history. why people hate politics in this country is because these people voted 65 times to repeal it when they knew there was no chance of it actually being repealed. then at exact moment when it could be repealed, voila, there's no actual plan to repeal it. susan collins and john mccain are exactly right. no responsible legislator can conceive by vote for this and for sure there are a lot of problems with obamacare. but the reality is no one knows how much this costs. no one knows how many people it will affect. nobody can articulate what it will do. it is a mishmash rushed nonsense legislation that affects 100% of the p

harold ford junior, alise jordan, nick confisori, mark halperin, and robert costa. >> mark, we're goingnto all the political news, but first i want to ask you what i actually asked jim before he left at the end of last hour. what what are you looking at at the beginning of this week? it's a fascinating time. republicans are trying to recover from the deal struck last week. donald trump actually seems to have his head down more than he has in the 7 1/2, eight months he's been in the white house. and actually he's taking a meeting with democratic senators from red states tonight. this looks like his effort to keep reaching across the aisle and actually turning his back on mitch mcconnell. it looks like that's continuing. >> i think the most important thing for the president is the most important thing for real americans which is can washington do anything to make the real lives of real people better. it starts with is there a formula on tax reform. one of the first times the president has tried to actually build a reagan-like coalition of most or all republicans bridging two more centrist

with us, heidi prisbella, jeff mason, harold ford junior. good to have you all on board.nate republicans to repeal obamacare with 51 votes. but with the republican majority under pressure, senator bernie sanders is stealing the spotlight. on monday he will swear off in a nationally televised debate against the sponsors of the republican bill. a democratic source told nbc news this has exactly the debate graham and cassidy want to have. sanders is looking out for himself rather than being a team player. and former obama spokesman tweeted i'm not sure single payer versus graham cassidy is the debate we want. proof this is the debate the republicans want, senator graham framed their bill as the only alternative to sanders' single payer idea when he introduced it last week. >> if you believe repealing and replacing obamacare is a good idea, this is your best and only chance to make it happen, because everything else has failed except this approach which will work if we get behind it. if you want a single payer health care system, this is your worst nightmare. bernie, this end

. >> we also have the president -- >> richard hoss also former democratic congressman harold ford juniorountain goats to be named ho hoss. >> and also our correspondent, glen. >> good to see you. >> straighten up here. >> he's sort of the baby bumba of this panel. >> i don't know what they're talking about. how was your labor day weekend? >> i worked. >> we knew that. we begin this hour again with the latest on north korea with the possibility of war hanging in the balance. >> it comes after the regime claimed it successfully tested a hydrogen bomb on sunday. it's pyongyang's sixth nuclear test. the first during the trump administration and appears to be their most powerful to date. the chinese morn ministry don kem -- condemned the test along with russia. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley suggested the latest provocation marks a turning point for the world. >> mr. president, will you attack north korea? >> we'll see. >> we have many military options and the president wanted to be briefed on each one of them. any threat to the united states or its territories including guam or our allie

. >> i was listening with interest when you were talking to harold ford about the democratic party'ssed to be their base, working class voters. as you both know, i went out post election, for getting it wrong, like many people who do what i do was to spend three months embedded with people who voted for donald trump. >> what did you find? >> i found i was the first one to call them and ask them why. these were union leaders who hadn't heard from national or statewide democrats. >> still haven't? >> still haven't. they were on the democratic voter roll. they had walked precincts for democrats. they were bill clinton voters and two-time obama voters. they weren't part of the hard right base. these were democrats through and through. >> and by the way, what comfort that must be for certain democrats to say the only reason hillary clinton lost was because americans are misogynists and racists, when you had people who voted for obama twice voting for trump. >> any time you hear democrats denigrating trump voters, they're missing the point. if working class people felt alienated from the d