i had friends. i'd-- i'd-- you know, i don't know why they had this intuition, but they moved me towards more contested matters involving tax. so i did a lot of litigation involving tax, being the confrontational guy that i am. i got thrown onto cases-- very interesting cases involving the entertainment industry. and i moved for two years out to california. it was kind of a nice lifestyle. i lived in l.a. wow. so were you wearing leisure suits, or not quite there? no. at that point, no. in fact, everybody else in california was wearing-- you know, was wearing loincloths and togas. and i was stepping over them on a saturday morning in a three-piece suit on my way to the office. so i realized i was a little bit out of sync for the lifestyle of california as a corporate lawyer. now, i practiced law as well. and your career was probably better than mine. i wasn't a good lawyer, and my clients made that clear. your clients presumably thought you were good at it. but why did you think you wanted to leave?

i never had that before. o we kind of played with that a little bit, and i'll never forget in 2006, he let me do it my way and at the end of 2006, i was not the happiest camper. so 2007, 2008, we kind of changed it again, and i can probably say it today those are the two best years i had in my career of 2007, 2008. so i started trusting him again. of course we have our battles. it all goes back to he's pressing my buttons. we grew together as we both changed. you know, some of the obstacles i went through in my life and the changes i went through in my life, he had to change on sort of how he approached me and how he worked together and i think that's something i saw over the last two years that made us work as well as we did. these last two years in my career, i i couldn't have asked for a better finish. this is what i wanted in london. i wanted closure on the spoorntd my career and when i hung up my suit, i wanted to hang it up the way i wanted to hang it up, not how i was -- in 201, i just felt like -- in 2

i knew something had happened. i did not know exactly what, obviously that build up the iraq war was happening, but i follow the president. he walked -- followed the president or he walked out to the south lawn and i gave him some room. i stayed back knowing that he was very emotional. i wanted to wait for a good moment. he walked to the entire length of the south lawn with the dogs, and as he approached me, i hate made a picture. you can see the weight of that decision on his face. then the president spoke to me. he said, eric, are you interested in history? all i could say was, yes, sir. he said, well these photos, the one in a situation room and the one on the south lawn, they are very important. just as he said that, secretary rumsfeld and vice president cheney were walking out of the oval office, and the president walked over to join them, and they started to discuss the timing of the start of the war in iraq. that moment was very intense. especially the president speaking to me. typically, i am disengaged from

to keep quiet i felt that is the only thing i had to do for my father left now i had to speak up for him i wanted justice my father i wanted gemma to just go i i was i was thinking of what i had gone through within that week and imagining another gagnon family going through that was like it was unimaginable so i made sure i did something to stop another family from losing their father like i did i made sure that i saw another family from leaving like a did so i had to speak up i had to say something to make sure everybody heard what i was saying to make sure people went out on the first of december to vote him out to make sure the world knows what he's doing to tell us about this role of this incredible role in this in this. overthrowing i gem it seems that the social media what's facebook mobile phones played a crucial role that really changed the history of this country social media was a great tool in the president barroso is that he says read and have access to the radio the t.v. when we had to go on something that is a correlation team but then just knowing when the meetings of

i had to craziest anxiety. dark thoughts about death, not killing myself, nothing like. that but i'm mortal. i hope i'm not going on too much. but i had all these realizations. and they were all negative things. once i ate better, once i said no i'm not going to do that show or no i have to postpone this tour for me, my anxiety began to get better and better and better. and that song, that's what it's b the first half is a very beautiful voice from my friend lucy rose and then the second half is when anxiety hits you and comes n i'm going to get up in your mind and make you feel like dime right now. i'm never giving, i have to let everybody know i'm in their mind right now. so it was just a culmination of a year of hell for me that i put into a song. >> take away from that experience was what? >> life's awesome. stop overthinking it. just enjoy the moment. and make time. balance yourself. that's why i got this tattoo. it says balance yourself. this says happy wife, happy life. and this one says balance yourself

i had to earn my living. you can't earn your living from writing biographies. ery lucky to have the job at the sunday times and when i left the sunday times after wapping in 1986 i was able then, in my 50s to start on my career as a writer and for the next 25 years i wrote historical biographers and i was very, very happy doing it. well, there's an enormous amount of happiness in this book, despite all the ups and downs and indeed the tragedies, you seem to be somebody who is somehow able to cope to a remarkable degree? yes, well, that is true but you do have to cope. if you don't cope... what's left? you might as well give in. and i think i learned to cope a bit in childhood. i was a child who was disliked by my father and loved by my mother. and i had that curious experience as a small child of realising this, of being well aware that my father didn't like me, and that my mother was my supporter and the person who loved me. your father was french and lived into his 905. yes. how did the relationship change? i think when he began to realise that i was a clever

i told him what had happened. i told him i will let you know as soon as i know. he said call me tomorrow morning, meaning the next day. i was up all night with mike and i go back up to a hotel and it is 6:30 in the morning and i picked the phone up to call and rob had been a marine also. i am saying to myself, i cannot do this. man,not do this to this not over the telephone. marine, i'm fellow having a hard time dealing with this. said, i have to call him. i do not know what i'm going to say. i was scrambling, i was scared. i got wrong on the phone and the first thing out of his mouth was , j, what you think. do you think? important whatre you think. to bringsible for me him down to atlanta? what you guys to meet. toflew to atlanta, we went rob's house and we are all talking. wasof the things rob said it is my son's high school homecoming/ guys tould love you join us. i told my son this is not uncle richard like we thought. he is over on the highschool football field having lunch with his friends. he came down and he crossed the he -- rob says i want tripp, the m

he sang a few songs and had a terrible voice and no social skills and i was quite sure he had no futureall. that turned out to be bob dylan. david: did you ever meet him again? dr. collins: i did. [laughter] david: did he remember you? dr. collins: no. he denies the whole thing. it was quite a bit later, maybe 10 years ago. david: you went to the college -- to college at the university of virginia where you were an , academic superstar. dr. collins: i was a bit of a nerd. i got excited about science in high school. i should give testimony to the importance of having really good teachers in high school. what got me interested from science did not come to my family. no scientists or physicians. it was that course i had in 10th grade at lee high school in virginia. david: you then went to yale to get a phd in what? dr. collins: chemical physics. david: what is that? dr. collins: quantum mechanics, mathematical physical science. ,david: your parents were obviously proud. you have a degree from university of virginia you have , a phd from yale, and now you're ready to get a job, right? dr. c

people were proud of me but not happy i had chosen -- this is -- i signed up in 2003, we had just invaded iraq, gotten involved in afghanistan for a little while, there was apprehension justifiably so about what it meant, what i was getting myself into. my mother reacted negatively. she framed my decision to go to the marine corps instead of college almost as a betrayal. you are leaving me to take care of myself. you could get hurt and that was very hard but she understood why i needed to do it. >> you went through basic training and what was that like, you couldn't get their basic training. >> i was never afraid i couldn't get through. in high school i was afraid of the physical demands but a drill instructor told me if you think drill instructors are going to be mean it will be nothing like the grandmother of yours. i really thought as long as i could physically cut it, the psychological part would be fine and i could make it and that was true. marine corps is definitely a challenging but it is also in a weird way kind of fun, stockholm syndrome but a lot of marines enjoyed their boot c

he ran some tests, he said i had some abnormalities in my heart. the supplements he recommended i take. it was commonly used in russia. we received a certificate that it was com pletely received a certificate that it was completely illegal to take for many yea rs, completely illegal to take for many years, ultimately it became illegal for the first few weeks of last year. see you got this e-mail in january 2016 before the australian open, you say in the book that this is an e—mail from the international tennis federation telling you meldonium is now banned but you did not click on all the attachments. why not? they were buried and hidden. those are not the types of attachments that any of the players open up if you really ask them. it wasn't noticeable at all. they didn't make an effort to show us that it was a commonly used supplement in eastern europe. it should have been flagged and it wasn't. you say in the book you were careless and you did not afford the e—mail to other members of your team and must have opened it, that was a very costly momen

i think i had a lot of my own ego tied up in the wilderness systems that i was managing.retrospect, i didn't like that person so much. the worst experience i would say is our relationships with each other and this became very strained during the latter half of the biosphere. it was kind of a microcosm of the earth and that is one of the things that we all have to learn to do much, much, much better. even if we have really different opinions about something, being able to speak civilly with each other about that, we did not get to that point for biosphere 2. but there is hope for biosphere one. the other thing that i learned personally which was so tangible was being actually a part of the system, not being apart from it. just being a part of it. just another part in addition to, you know, the plans and the animals and the soil microbes. there is linda, the human. their experiment is complete, the eight project members emerged a little thinner but all in good health after two years spent in an elaborate greenhouse. it was really the first time in two years on that day that

had yours? dr. collins: i have not had the whole thing read out, but i had a sampling of it.was about eight years ago, when i was writing a book about personalized medicine and wanted to use myself as a guinea pig. i learned some things in the process of doing that about my own future risks that i found useful. one thing i learned is that my risk of diabetes was substantially higher than the average person based on my genetic inheritance, and that was a shock because that is not something that runs in my family. but my family are athletic people, so maybe they managed to avoid it. that was a point when i was not athletic. i was indulging in too many muffins and honey buns and not doing exercise, and that was enough to motivate me to change all of that and lose 35 pounds and get an exercise program. i am a different person now than i would have been if i'd stayed on that path. david: muffins and honey buns are not healthy for you? [laughter] that is what you are saying. dr. collins: they are not healthy for anybody, i'm afraid. david: how much longer can people keep increasing

before this before this i had done i had directed one a short film in an episode of a t.v. show but ya know i jumped in with with both feet ok a lifetime dream nine years old what was it like. and everything i'd hoped it would be and heartburn it. is it is and it's your baby that's the thing and a director's purview is. all encompassing and they have to you have to have the an answer and the right answer and an opinion on every aspect of the production and and there's just always something to worry about that being said. i had i have such a reverence for the for the for me i have such a reference for cinema that i i knew and i've been wanting this since i was a child that i was like i've got to make this the best thing pie you in the movie to say i'm in about four or five scenes as much as i can stomach watching myself see you don't like acting i i i like it and i respect it and and i'm very grateful because it's afforded me and my mum and my sister lives we wouldn't have otherwise had that's just the god's honest truth but i was always in acting as a means of being part of

i thought i had done an ok job at this. eople came up to me, this man afterwards and i , thought he was going to tell me, this is great, or he disagrees. he said to me, looked at me, and said, i wish my daughters had been here. it is funny the sort of moments you remember. i remember thinking -- that is why you do have to realize any of us in these positions of any kind of influence, we are a role model for someone, and women do need role models. we are still a small minority that run these companies. they need role models to say, yes, that is possible. i can be that. it is hard to dream to be something if you don't see other people like it. david: are you disappointed or surprised, if you take a fortune 100 of the fortune 200 companies, there are relatively few female ceos still? ginni: yeah. i would have hoped, by now, that there would be more, right? i think this is a very conscious effort. in fact, we make a conscious effort. one of the biggest things is to keep women in the workforce. and so, there is no doubt, when wom

i had a wonderful set of internships with them. i graduated, i did feel a sense, a real sense of obligation to first go to gm. i had a lot of other offers, but to go to gm. i was a computer science with engineering degree. david: were there a lot of women taking those courses in those days at northwestern in those days? ginni: what do you think? david: not that many? ginni: no. i was probably one of the only woman in many of those classes, even then. david: you are at set -- you are at general motors several years. you hear of an opportunity to go to a company called ibm. ginni: it wasn't, as sometimes people think, that you have some long thought-out career plan. i'm sorry to tell you i had been working at general motors, and while i liked what i was doing, i really felt, because i liked technology, it was the idea of to be able to apply it to a lot of different industries. it was as simple as my husband said, hey, look, i have a friend and his dad works for ibm. why don't you just call him? actually, i think it was my husband who

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and that, by the way, was the only leverage i had or that i felt i had and when i gave that letter away i was really nervous. i had no guarantee -- the main mission was to get those two people out. incidentally i never heard from either one of the two for -- until i was in seoul on the 26th of june and i was interviewed by korean newspaper and this interviewer from the paper said, she had a message from kenneth bay who was one of the two citizens who was a missionary in north korea's, trying to do good and he got arrested for it and he'd -- when we got him out he had been in hard labor for two years. he was actually in very good shape. he sent me a wonderful message expressing his appreciation for getting him out and all that sort of thing. and i'll tell you when i watched the family reunions, it was very impactful. i went to the cockpit and watched and quite heart-wrenching to see, you know -- see them reunited with their families. it was great. >> okay. yes, a question, here, ma'am. >> hello. my name's >> i'm a freshman an the elliot school. my question is regarding cybersecurity and

i had my cameras around me. i walked past the elevator and i did not realize what my competitors was behind me. he was going to do the same thing. i did not hear him when he said it. i get down to the end of the hallway and there is a l shape. it would dead end at the end of the hallway. there were two doors to the courtroom. i walk to the hallway and heard a woman scream. three feet away from me, there is a guy with a gun to her head. he says, i'm going to kill her, like that. the aps photographers said the guy has a gun, and he pushed me head first into the doorway. he came in behind me. i did not get any pictures because it happened so quickly. doorway ande other walked out in the hallway and he had disappeared. he had two hostages in the empty courtroom. he came in with a different hostage and he started toward me. it was so dark there is no light , in the hallway and he makes a right-hand turn and he is heading to all the people. i say this guy has a gun and he is going to kill jack ruby. nobody knows about

i had to start at the gettysburg campaign. but when i looked at the end of the gettysburg campaign, it is not july 13-14, it is actually august first, when the armies get back to the rappahannock the gettysburg campaign, it is river, and for two weeks, meade and lee gould with each other in this giant chess match in the shenandoah valley. lee, trying to get back into the mountains to defend central virginia, and meade, trying to prevent them from doing that. there was a great possibility that there would be another large battle in virginia, that would be the culminating fight of the gettysburg campaign, that meade had a chance to do south of the potomac, when he had failed to do north of the potomac. and that launched me into backing up my original study, which was going from august 2 december, into starting in the middle of july. this book is the first in a series of what will be ultimately, three books that will examine that time. this is my second book. my first, was published 17 years ago, that is kind of a long lag time. i

i had a lung contusion. tuff. >> jimmy: did it ever occur to you that you shouldn't be dirt >> that's what i said. you know, when i was 20 you could take a bullet in the shoulder and, you know, by morning you'd kind of shake it off and you're fine. now i get a hangnail and it's a month before you're any better. [ laughter ] so i knew i was in trouble. so i called this friend of mine who runs a medical imaging center in santa monica, dr. j abor. "star wars" place over there. it's saturday night, and i called him and i said what are you doing? he said i'm in a tuxedo, i'm hosting a big dinner, i'm getting ready to leave. i said could you stop by the office on the way and check me out? and he did. i got there, his whole staff was there. i'm there three minutes, he says we're stopping these tests, you are -- you have six broken ribs. i didn't know. if you have three broken ribs, they diagnose you as respiratory failure. he said you're going in the hospital. >> jimmy: he did? >> yeah. >> jimmy: are you okay now? >

and so, i didn't have an agent, never had done anything before. i'll give you $10,000 to do the movie." i went, "nah, i want $15,000." so i did it for $14,000. - no. - yeah. wait a minute, he negotiated you down from 15? ( chuckles ) well, yeah... i apologize. first of all, you should have gone for way more than 15. well, i didn't know. ( cheering ) where are my love slaves out there? thunderlips is here, in the flesh, baby! now the character was great for you know, the females. it's the ultimate male, thunderlips. look at those lips. it helped you get laid. i'm talking about it helped me attract the opposite sex. good match. hey, why'd you get so crazy on me out there? that's the name of the game. you ended up on the cover of "sports illustrated." i can't get over that, because wrestlers weren't on that magazine. and to be on the cover, that must have been a moment for you. ah, it's never happened since. i've been the only wrestler ever to be on the cover. which means we didn't tell the people it was an actual exhibition and we know who's gonna wi

i had made many friends in new york, i had a lot of friends in new york, but we had two kids by that me, and i lived in white plains, i'd take the train, and i'd take the train back. and it didn't strike me as much of a life compared to being here in omaha. and both sets of grandparents were alive at that time, and it just-- uncles and aunts and-- omaha was a more pleasant place to live. all right, so you buy a house here? i rent a house. you rented a house? i rent a house for $175 a month. okay, and when did you buy your house that you're still in? in 1958. my third child was on the way. so you started partnership here, and how did you raise money? well, david, actually when i came back i had about $175,000. and i thought that was all i would need to live the rest of my life. i could take care of everything. so i really planned to go to school-- i thought about going to law school. think how successful you could've been as a lawyer. that's true. i've regretted it ever since. right, i know. so your first partnership, when you had people cobbled together some money, how much money did

i even had -- at dinner tonight. [applause] i am surrounded by flowers some of which i describe in the book. part of my beloved world in puerto rico. so, i'm here to talk to you about my book and about what my book is about and when i started to write it was there was one thing i wanted to accomplish. when you write a memoir, and i have read many of them through my life, you sometimes come away asking the question, asking yourself the question, did i learn anything new about that person? regrettably often i've read books and memoirs or autobiographies and really didn't learn much that i didn't already know. i didn't want to write that kind of book. i wanted to write something different, something where at the end of that a raider could come away and say to themselves, i think i know her will. so what my book -- "my beloved world" intended in part to do is let you see my heart and soul and in doing that i hope to show you who i was but also to show you a little bit of you. there was the purpose for doing that. and the

on this one i had to sign a new clause larry a what a nudity clause meaning meaning at sixty three i didn't expect to do any more of those you know that's where when you get a job and you have to show some skin you know they are obligated to have a contract of how much skin and i would have to show nudity in this there's a new the in it's not totally lewd the and it ends up being kind of benign but you know they want you to sign up for and i thought wow the last one i did these few decades ago but you know talk about the rules for men i never imagined that there's something this interesting you know where he's a very complicated character with no sexual relations with a. couple different people and it's very complicated. out there but you know do you see scripts all the time yeah there's lots of different kinds of things coming up we're going to be doing two parts in november october one is just a movie called cheney and. j.b. dick cheney who do you play i play nelson rockefeller did you ever meet oh i did did you interview him i've never interviewed him but i met him at a convention

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i thought i was going to be president when we had a woman president. we have president trump and i have been going around wondering if one of my members is going to get sued. meeting coming up in november. host: why would you expect some of your members to be sued? ms. telnaes: this administration obviously does not understand what a free press does. i'm concerned my members, especially because they are images,sts, we deal in they create a lot of controversy sometimes and we have always had members they get some kind of legal action against them. it doesn't necessarily go to court but someone will threaten the with legal action. concerned with this administration, with this president --he obviously doesn't understand what the first amendment is all about. that is what i have been doing. show some gifs. gif depicting senator mcconnell on health care. what am i looking at? ms. telnaes: when was this? i guess this was before trump became president. rid ofre trying to get obamacare. they are pulling the rug out from under everybody who has health care cover

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>> i guess of those had challenges. i did not expect to be in this position after january 2017 because i knew about the history of nih directors appointed by the president, virtually always turned over when there is a new president. somehow they made a mistake in cap to me on. david: did president trump say he knew you did a great job, or how did that come about? dr. collins: i got a call that said we want you to come to new york and meet with trump at trump tower a few days before the inauguration so he can talk to you and interview you and get a sense of whether you are somebody might want to keep on, so i went. david: so you went to trump tower? dr. collins: i did. be man of seem to simple taste, so i suspect you are not a big shopper and trump tower stores before? dr. collins: i had not been there before. you are quite right. i rode the bus from washington to new york for my interview. i suspect i may be the only person who rode the bus to an interview at trump tower, but there you go. david: i'm sure that is true. s

so, i just had him flip over and turn in to him. an, you could do it as a still but i think the motion and to it. gif about the a republican platform on women's issues. isom this was during the campaign. ann: yes, it was. that was early on when i believe announced.ust they were worried that he was going to be bad for them in terms of women voters and i thought, really? you are worried now? considering how far back they have had an anti-woman platform with reproductive rights, equal pay? brian: speaking of president gift, has he not been a for cartoonists? ann: yeah, i get that a lot. eight left. let's put it this way, we do not have to look for anything to do but now it is an issue of trying to decide what you want to comment on. know, we are like anyone else. this is our country. we are worried about where does going. tom not looking for anything comment on. this summer has been amazing. summer is usually a time when cartoonists are looking for things to do because congress is out of session. people are on vacation. you are doing ca

and i had a really important summer where i spent time with my aunt in new york city.hat was when i was first starting to kind of get my start as an adult and in the publishing world. just being around her and malik and seeing how they were able to make their lives work while being artists i think sort of gave me more permission or made me less scared of it in a pretty subtle way i think. you might think because that exists in my family it is a topic of conversation. it wasn't really. it was something i think was good for me to be around. >> did you know going into this where the lines were or did you discover that as you were writing? that is to say the parts a bit more semi auto bigraphic and the parts that are more experimental fiction. did you know? >> no. the reason for that is, you know, a creative project is always really different when you are looking from the perspective of a creator. and it didn't all happen at once. it wasn't intentional really. the way i started writing the book was i was journaling as i often do. at the time my mother was herself dying of

i felt i had to use myself as a guide. at the same time, i wanted to give the reader something, i wanted them to learn the way i had. i had this extraordinary experience. i got to will move abroad, and one is scholarship, that many people get to do that. in the process of writing the book i read more about the history of the countries. i wanted to share that with the reader. i did remember these powerful moments. they're just moments. it doesn't even have to be a long seen her many hours, maybe just a moment or something hits you like in cairo where he realizes place has been broken by something. i am related to that because americans relationship was really a damaging one. and that feeling of responsibility or connection, this unique experience when you're there and see in it yourself and learning about it for the first time. as you are realizing you're having some powerful emotions and thinking my gosh i hope, whole life without realizing i'm having a relationship with millions of people. but they know the relationship ve

i had a tourniquet. i tied it off. the time i started to pass out i realized, this thing here's starting to bleed pretty good. >> hill has had a long history with the tulsa county jail and the oklahoma state prison system. over the past 20 years he's been convicted and served time for crimes including robbery, domestic violence, and escape. he's currently accused of fatally stabbing a man during an attempted robbery and is now awaiting trial for first-degree murder. but hill appears confused about his charges. >> they told me they were investigating an assault, okay? well, i had assault and battery, i knew about that. misdemeanor stuff, you know what i mean? >> robert, according to the court documents, the victim in your case was stabbed to death. >> stabbed to death? see, that's another thing, man, like i feel like that's not me, i'm thinking they're confusing -- there's a lot of people with my name. >> amber hilberling says there is no confusion about the life she led prior to the 20 months that she spent in the tuls

and-- so-- and so, i had no pressure. i had no pressure. ust went on the air, and i was myself. so he openly left chicago and moved to new york because of the competition, i guess. i'm not sure. and ultimately, you were-- well, we beat-- i beat him, david. i did. right, right. [audience laughs] well, i-- i did beat him. i did. i wasn't trying to, i wasn't even trying to. but, you know, it's just like, um... well, i'm sympathetic to white men with white hair, [winfrey & audience laugh] but, uh, you did-- you did very well? well, he actually was so gracious, and i often-- i have always said, "had there not been a phil donahue, there couldn't have been an oprah show." because he paved the way for that kind of audience, you know. smart women at home, many of them stay-at-home mothers, taking care of their kids. some of them going back into the workforce in the mid-80s, when i started, who were interested in talking about purposeful things, meaningful things. so-- he opened that door. when did you realize, in chicago or baltimore, that you actual

. - i had zero experience. i didn't know anything about real estate. i always would see the shows on tv and i just never had anybody that was there to teach me or to educate me, and there were so many components that i was nervous about or i was afraid about. i didn't know how to walk into a property and know how much it would cost to renovate it. all the tools, systems, resources than provided me answered all those questions. they took all those insecurities and threw them out the door for me. i think back at my confidence level, and being a single mom with a two year old little girl, i did things that i never thought were going to be possible. i wasn't just learning how to flip a house, i was learning how to have belief in myself when i didn't have it. - people often ask me, "than, why real estate? "and why right now?" well you've probably already noticed what's currently going on in this country is very scary. most americans are living paycheck to paycheck. i'm talkin' about middle-class people, maybe like you, who are losing ground and losing faith

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i said, "we had a blended family." n jerry and i got together adam was five or six. these are the five kids all grown up. - that's gregory. - harvey: huh. judy: who's married and has two little kids. and that's jonathan and that's the baby, that's nicole, that's jaime, she's sort of in the middle. and that's adam. we have 13 grandchildren, from 3 to 29. when you left to go on your own after the divorce, how quickly did you get involved with jerry? i would say not more than a month. now, i wouldn't say to you i was looking to date before i left, a little insurance isn't bad either. um, i like to be mated. um... it's natural for me to be mated. harvey: you've never really been on your own. judy: no, no. i like to have somebody to fuss over. i do. you've got this strong independent woman on one side and a woman who says, "i wanna be mated. - i wanna fuss over somebody" on the other-- - judy: that's fine. that means that i can relate to people. how quickly did you marry him? you met him a month after you left-- judy: oh, my

i had never felt so over, but here's the thing, i could sense with some radar i did not know i had that she wanted the same. the energy hung in the air, we were opposite ends of a magnet. fusion releases more energy than fishing. i just reach over, put my arms around her and watch her moms station wagon pull off. with people and immediate force, we jump away from each other.i walked carla to her car dejected with this meager consolation, as she made her way he offered me her hand in apology. it was so much in the grass that i fear i have spent my entire life trying only to return to that squeeze and where i could be held with someone instead of just myself. i let my parents to believe that on the friday night, the first week of june, convenient, i'd sleep over at a friends house, this friend's mom conspired with me as did everyone else to leave school early on the day of prom, one had to have parental permission. both parents gave theirs, mind you do not need to ask. the principal winked at my departing a little earlier than the conclusion of the day. i crossed state lines to my friends

ithey gave me the synthetic opioid because i had to take some medicine. anyway i was in the hospital at ohio state and i remember evlling basically everyone in my family. you see a lot of unemployment in the background. can you describe it as getting better or worse. >> the economy picked up aed little bit. i don't think that it will be significantly over where it was 30 or 40 years ago. what i mean is the number of old in the industry di and let's noe 1950s and 60s it's not as bad as it was but i do thinkst that you are seeing a bald in terms of second shift in the sirius. at the policymakers were blind to it and thought the economymaw would adjust and move in different professions but whatjo happened is a lot of communities have one of the undercurrents of the book. what is there to do about it there are a lot of different things we can do about it. between going and working at a fast food job or getting a four year education i don't think it is surprising when those are the only two pathways when you see people going in those two directions. but i also

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>> i had, well, i had many horses.- there was one horse named bones. growing up on a farm, you have ups and downs. there's good things and very sad things. i was at a cheerleading competition. i was a cheerleader. which i'm really proud of. >> jimmy: yeah. >> i was at a cheerleading competition. my mom was mouthing something and i didn't understand, and she was like, "what?" she's like, "bones is dead." [ laughter ] "bones died." i was like, "what?" >> jimmy: bones is dead. >> yeah, and she's here and i was like, "can you try to rethink what your thinking was on the timing on that?" >> jimmy: did you start crying? >> no, then they she went into how -- what she's getting my, um, 3-year-old nephew for his birthday. she's like, "did i tell you what i'm getting theo for his birthday?" "i'm getting him a leaf blower." "a real leaf blower." [ laughter ] >> jimmy: a real leaf blower. >> a real -- >> jimmy: he's gonna love it. >> yeah. he actually really will. >> jimmy: he will? how old is he? >> he's turning three. he loves e