john brennan. lou: did you work for jim clapper? >> i did work for jim clapper and when he was the director of the cia i was overseeing the clandestine intelligence program. i had to brief him on several programs at lou i'm telling you i was with the jake tonight briefed the man. unless someone is holding his hand feeding him information please been so successful in the role he played in the obama administration. he would do what he was told and he could care less as we have seen. he lied to the american people. lou: so did john brennan and susan rice. all of them. this was an organized administration intent on working against the national interest of the united states. there is no other rationale for what we have witnessed. >> we are organized to go after then that's the next step by the president. lou: i would hope urgently so. lieutenant colonel tony schaefer good to have you with us. we are coming right back. a lot more ahead and not all of it is pleasant but we hope you will stay us nonetheless. we will be right back. special c

was already on to the issue with power and put a series of questions to the former cia director john brennan and you can see by the exchange it got a little awkward. >> do you really u.s. ambassadors asking names be unmasked? >> i don't know. maybe it many ringing a vague bell. but i could not answer with any confidence. >> january 19 up until noon january 20, did you make any unmasking requests. >> i do not believe i did. kennedy: a couple things here. brennan later -- i don't know if he was thrown off in that line of questioning but he came back later in that same hearing and said i misspoke. i was at the cia on january 2 some, the day of the inauguration. and a second thing for folks at home, typically the kinds of person who asks to have the americans whose names are blacked out or shielded in these reports, they want that information because they are primarily in an intelligence role within the administration it's hard to argue that samantha power had that kind of role in the last white house and certainly with the numbers, it's a lot -- the critics would say it goes to the idea there w

there are -- lou: but i've just told you john brennan lied.es clapper lied to congress, to the american people, and there has been no response from either the justice department of this administration, nor the congress of the united states either republican or to democrat in the previous administration. i mean, that is, that is stunning stuff. >> i would think congressional hearings are the traditional and reasonable approach in something like this. these individuals need to be called before a congressional committee and asked to explain themselves. they ought to be able to get a hearing -- lou: hobbit a grand jury? >> -- how about a grand jury? everybody that's gone before a congressional hearing in the last ten years, as far as i know, has gotten a free pass, and there's been no effect. >> well, if the democrats, let's say, get a free pass from a republican administration, then maybe it's because they didn't do something wrong, or maybe it's because there's just a lot of confusion. but the main thing seems to me to be that we have to both ge

was already on to the issue with power and put a series of questions to the former cia director john brennan and you can see by the exchange it got a little awkward. >> do you really u.s. ambassadors asking names be unmasked? >> i don't know. maybe it many ringing a vague bell. but i could not answer with any confidence. >> january 19 up until noon january 20, did you make any unmasking requests. >> i do not believe i did. kennedy: a couple things here. brennan later -- i don't know if he was thrown off in that line of questioning but he came back later in that same hearing and said i misspoke. i was at the cia on january 2 some, the day of the inauguration. and a second thing for folks at home, typically the kinds of person who asks to have the americans whose names are blacked out or shielded in these reports, they want that information because they are primarily in an intelligence role within the administration it's hard to argue that samantha power had that kind of role in the last white house and certainly with the numbers, it's a lot -- the critics would say it goes to the idea there w

house intelligence committee sent subpoenas for the unmasking request by john brennan, susan rice, ander. records were requested for ben rhodes. at a congressional hearing, a senior republican pressed the cia director on the issue without mentioning power by nam name. >> do you recall any u.s. ambassadors asking names be unmasked. >> i don't, i don't know. maybe it's ringing a vague bell but i could not answer with any confidence. >> on either january 19 or until noon on january 20, did you make on the -- make any unmasking requests? because i don't believe i did. >> power had no comment on the numbers or timing of the request but previous statements said she was acting as the national security council. >> bret: back with the panel. the unmasking thing is ringing of vague bell. we have covered this many times. it hasn't been covered a lot of other places but it's a little curious that samantha power as the u.s. ambassador to the united nations had 260 plus unmasking requests for the trump team. >> that's what trey gowdy was getting out in may, asking john brennan about this. the whole

former cia director john brennan testified in congress this year that last summer, when he was running the cia, he and the cia saw something in the course of their spying, in the course of their intelligence collection that gave them reason to worry that people associated with the trump campaign might be in league with the russian government as the russians were attacking our election. so the cia last summer saw something that concerned them. that cia concern led to the creation of an inner agency working group and that is what ultimately led to the fbi counterintelligence investigation into whether or not the trump campaign colluded with russia. that is the counter intelligence investigation and now criminal investigation that has today become the robert mueller special inquiry. that's how we got here but it all started last summer and according to this report from cnn tonight, sometime after june of last year, so roughly in the same time frame of when the cia was convening this task force that led to the russia investigation, sometime after june last year even though the fbi had stop

they chose to take the position -- they had john brennan be a deputy to the national security adviserto avoid the concern that counterterrorism would take a backseat. other people have opined that is the case. i think you could just as easily attribute any policy decisions to the president and not to the organizational structure that he a doctor. key adopted. what president trump did was to take the current position and t to the position you hell. what we have is a major combined hsc and nsc staff. and it is led by two people. h.r. mcmaster takes a special role and prominence here. if there is any disagreement between he and i, i will often cede to his judgment. generally not. generally, the president wants to know my view and his and generally he and i speak the same language and we can take two different positions without being argumentative. what is need about this is the matrix staff has a place to go. if you end up feeling like maybe my point of view will be dismissed routinely because one of the principles do not agree with my point of view, now we have to principles. the presid

says seventeen and with new york times at seventy and then wonder of wonders james clapper and john brennan two gentlemen and they used the word loosely not very well known for their. credibility he said no you know i know people say it seventeen but it really wasn't it really wasn't seven he was how many were frank and how many whether for no. three three and actually actually not even three because these were hand-picked analysts now you know for our intelligence experience they were you hand-picked analysts and you have a conclusion that you want every you see you pick the right analysts whether careerists but what they actually believe what you what so the whole thing was pretty transparent the memo that they came up with is as i've said before disgrace the intelligence professional profession because it gives no evidence to support these we assess we assess and we assess a little bit more and we assess you know what does assess mean that means we're guessing we don't have any evidence. right some of these terms to people that are in the intelligence communities they hear assess and the

. >> after devin nunes issued subpoenas by rice, john brennan and samantha power who allegedly made hundreds, devin nunes wrote to dan coats that the possible motivation was to "achieve partisan political purposes. multiple sources say they found rice's explanation dubious. the obama national security team and former attorney general lynch. >> bret: thank you. let's get the latest on that investigation that ended with james comey exonerating hillary clinton last july. >> speaking to fox, lindsey graham threatened to subpoena the former fbi director. >> there is so much to be determined. comey needs to come back. what was his real reason for clearing hillary clinton? had he made up his mind before he even talked to her? >> i ask you yes or no. will you subpoena him question mexico i would. >> one source told fox they would like to see comey come back before the end of october. >> bret: harvard is getting a lot of heat for hiring chelsea manning. >> u.s. army soldier turned felon who gave wikileaks thousands of classified records will take on a roll at harvard's john f. kennedy school of gover

but they played a little bit of a trick there they had john brennan and lisa monaco i think this year be a deputy to the national security adviser, but retain the same rank title and open door access to the president so as to avoid the concern that counterterrorism would take a back seat to let's say peace this the middle east. and so other people have opined that that was the case. i think you can just as easily attribute any policy decisions that were made in the last eight years to the president's preferences and not the organizational structure he adopted. but personals make a difference, and work structures do sometimes matter. what president trump decided to do, i think wisely, and i spent quite a bit of time talking to him about this in transition was to take my current position and reelevate it to the position you held and that townsend held before you. and at some degree tom ridge and general gordon. so what we've got is a matrixized combined hsc-nsc staff under the name of the national security council staff now, which is good. and it's got that historic, honorable name and

john brennan gordon does is very best. he gets control about half of the army of northern virginia. fort stedman east of the james river. over the month they are very heavily fortified. fort stedman is not very far where there was a quite a summer before. it is the point where the lines get very close. he does his homework, he sends out his scouts, they have spies. they are getting reports that, they can a know everything that they cannot see. you are going to make a night attack, punch through and then you have broken through. point go down the city and it will take a lot of coordination. he really thinks he has done everything. he is a man who always had good luck until fort stedman. -- after ifore that did the first reading with the first reading it describes what of thelike as a private platoon affiliated forever with louisiana. they are tough guys. they are overwhelmingly irish and the part i am going to read to you is about the initial wave of the attack. forwardis own divisions that many trust and many know. as i always try to do in all of the books. even the privates are rea

here is trey gowdy in the hearing with john brennan. >> do you recall any u.s. ambassadors asking that names be unmasked? >> i don't, i don't know. maybe it's ringing a vague bell that i could not answer with any confidence. >> on either january 19 or until noon january 20, did you make any unmasking requests? >> i do not believe i did. >> bret: chris, the sourcing is that if there were unmasking requests to the inauguration day itself. paint the picture. you have why it's being reported about paul manafort that there was a wire. there was a fisa request. they allowed a warrant and it was monitoring paul manafort in trump tower. then you have this. string it all together. >> look at it this way. when democrats saw their hopes in 2016 turned sideways and smashed into a telephone poll, and i think there are concerns about trump. there is no intimation there was anything wrong with the investigation into paul manafort who's had legal problems and inquiries for a long time. he is not new to dealing with federal prosecutors. there is no intimation that any of that wa

another staffer says the outlet pushed him to try to obtain private e-mails from john brennan, and refused because viewed as request to commit espionage. sputnik says this inquiry undermines press freedom. look at this fairly. if the government is investigating a real news outlet for its journalism, could be bad for press freedom. but that's actually the whole question the feds are investigating. are outlets like sputnik independent news or kremlin propaganda? it matters. there's freedom in united states to write whatever you want including adversaries. it's illegal to fraudulently pose as american media if they're something else. line drawn at dawn of world war ii to combat nazis. had got operatous in the time. you have the freedom to write about the nazis but not write for the nazis and pretend it's independent journalism. obscure but not more air lately. michael flynn, law is federal agents investigation act, cropping up in the russia-related investigations. hunter walker broke it and joins me and foreign policy analyst. hunter, where does this inquiry go? >> already seeing it may be wi

. >> director john brennan most recently served for four years as the cia director zmoo and one of the at this year's as pen security forum is the insecure behavior of president trump. >> this is what he said in a tweet, and i'll let both of you respond. intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to leak into the public. one last shot at me. are we living in nazi germany? >> these types of comments are just disgraceful. never should have happened. >> american intelligence sounded the first warning of russian meddling a month before the election. but it was buried by coverage of this. >> can do anything. >> after he won, the hacking stories gained steam, and the president-elect deflected on twitter, praising putin's russia and mocking american intelligence. for the man in charge of that intel community, the nazi comparison made blood boil. >> it prompted me to call him. what did i have to lose? i had nine days left. but i couldn't let that reference pass. that was a terrible, insulting afront, not to me or john or the seniors, but i'm talking about the rank and file

he said to john brennan, did anyone wiretapped anyone, a day or two before he left?ot have a vague memory of this. how do these people know to ask these questions? someone is going to tie this all together.o >> jesse: comey has a lot of credibility left. >> juan: donald trump and his lawyers are trying to make sure everyone is looking at this hand. don't pay attention to the troubles back here, folks. >> kimberly: okay. straight ahead, the health care feud heats up between a late-night host and a senator spearheading a new effort to repeal obamacare. stay right there. ♪ hey, man. oh! nice man cave! nacho? [ train whistle blows ] what?! -stop it! -mm-hmm. we've been saving a lot of money ever since we switched to progressive. this bar is legit. and now we get an even bigger discount from bundling home and auto. i can get used to this. it might take a minute. -swing and a miss! -slam dunk! touchdown! together: sports! touchdown! that's why a cutting edgeworld. university counts on centurylink to keep their global campus connected. and why a pro football team chose us t

and john brennan and others, who knew what the russians were doing have been sounding the alarm. you this, anderson, if i had been collected president under the same circumstances so that you know, i lost the popular vote. i squeaked through the electoral college and evidence came up the russians were trying to help me, i would have said on the first day in office, we're going to launch the most thorough investigation, no nation, particularly an adversary nation, can mess with our democracy. i would have had an commission. i would have done everything i could to get to the bottom of it because it's not going to stop. >> up front tonight, david gergen who served as adviser to four president, april ryan and mark preston, mark, your comey coat, it's loud and clear. she's sure she would have won if he hadn't interfered. not mincing words. >> you know, not mincing words. she showed he's human. no doubt about that. show ed he is she is willing to be brutally honest with her feel, but sometimes, you don't speak in your outside voice and i think her criticisms across the board would have

. >> i just had the opportunity last week to interview former cia director john brennan. he made an interesting point to me. he said after trump's fehr and fury comment, the north koreans actually backed down, and it was only a few days later when steve bannon gave an interview, i think to the new yorker saying that we have no military option that the north koreans were very attentive to what is said by administration officials, resumed their testing and their missile strikes. i just want to very quickly disagree with something that mark said. if we assume that north korea and kim jong-un is a rational actor, then you have to assume that he would not respond irrationally to a limited american military strike to take out north korean weapon sites. if, however, you assume he's irrational, then he's undeterrable and that means that we have to deal with the problem one way or the other. so the argument of those who say we can deter north korea the way we deterred the soefts union, it needs to be thought through a little more. it can sell them to iran, to other bad players. we

people i really respect, like jim clapper, and john brennan and others who knew what the russians werem. i will tell you this, aen anderson -- if i had been elected president under the same circumstances so that i lost the popular vote, i squeaked through the electoral college and evidence came up that the russians for whatever reason were trying to help me, i would have said on the first day in office, we're going to launch the most thorough investigation. no nation, particularly an adversary nation, can mess with our democracy. i would have had an independent commission. i would have done everything i could to get to the bottom of it because it is not going to stop. that's what i'm worried about. >> jake, you've covered her a lot. it is interesting, this interview, she does seem much more candid and certainly in her book to some extent. but she seems more relaxed almost and kind of going into details on things that happened during the campaign that as a candidate she probably never would have said. >> you two talked about the second debate which you co-moderated with marsha raddatz.

people i really respect like jim clapper and john brennan and others who knew what the russians have i had been elected president under the same circumstances, i lost the popular vote, squeaked through the electoral college and russia ben wrs trying to help me, i would have said on the first day in office, we're going to launch the most thorough investigation, no information, particularly an adversary nation, can mess with our democracy. i would have had an independent commission, done everything i could to get to the bottom of it because it's not going to stop. that's what i'm worried about. >> she still believes wolf though that despite the russian intervention, that she believes that did have an impact on people's votes. which is something republicans have pushed back on repeatedly, that no vote was actually altered by russian interference. she definitely blames director comey and the decision just a week and a half or so before the election to reopen the investigation. >> did you get is sense of writing this book helped her come to terms with the results of the election? >> it se

they have it on a long time frame but i'm concerned that of john brennan thinks this is a 100 year warthat we arere embarked on, time is on the jihad he said.se peter was very on the money over time say the threat was really a low grade non- existential threat particularly focused on aviation. everything has borne out peter's prognosis so far. everyone miss the rights of isis, however i do feel -- pc to bin laden's victim that he will be patients until patiences upward by patients. now with the new coming to the floor there's a second or third generation of al qaeda that are more professional, networked, more experienced, more dug intos the societies and i wonder a, just a matter that we cannot find bin laden successor, does it matter that we cannot even tell if big daddy is dead or a live in third, what you think of wmd? is it on their menu and will we see it? >> we have quite a comprehensive answer. and all the she hobbies in thehe west it's quite striking, none involve weapons of mass destruction. there's a misnomer that there's only one weapon of mass destruction. 9 unless nuclear

they have it on a long time frame, with you i'm concerned if john brennan thinks that this is a 100-year war we're embarked on o, that time is on the jihadi side and party was very on the money over time saying that the threat was really a low grade, nonexistential threat, thrick focused on aviation, everything has born out his prognosis so far. everyone missed the wrong devices. however i do feel that zawahiri in particular pays heed to bin laden's victim that he will be patient until patience is outworn by patience. i feel now that there is a second or even a third generation of al qaeda that are more professional, better networked, more experienced, more dug into these societies like mali and pakistan. i wonder, a, does it matter we can't find bin laden's successors? does it matter that we can't even tell if baghdadi is dead or alive? third and most importantly, what do you think of wmd? is it on their menu and will we see it? peter: the paper today we have quite a comprehensive arctic that will wmd question. weapons of mass destruction. peter: the paper today we have quite a comprehe

eric in the fbi is the ag and john brennan in the cia. brennan is so radical that in 1976 election, imported communist because jimmy carter was not liberal enough for him. literally voted for the communist party candidate. and brennan and holder were under instructions to fire everybody. get rid of everybody in your agencies. take these agencies that had been the bastions of the right, the fbi, fighting communist, liberals all over the united states and hounding them and violating their civil liberties. and the cia, going abroad in search of regimes that weren't coming online, even if they were moderately -- the cia tried to topple them and put them on the list. they give 70 percent of money to the christian democratic party that it raised in italy during the 1960s and 70s. to stop the communists from taking italy. and with it, went disinformation and sabotage and the whole deal. but now, brennan and holder turned the agencies from bright red to deep blue. they became apostles, and of capitalism and democracy but of the left wing tenants

. >> bill: john brennan, when questioned by trey gowdy in may, the third week. it went like this? recall any u.s. ambassadors asking that names be unmasked? >> i don't -- i don't know. maybe it's ringing a vague bell but i'm not -- i could not answer with any confidence. >> on either january 19th or up until noon on january 20th did you make any unmasking request? >> i do not believe i did. >> bill: take his word for it for the moment. doug, do you have any reason to think he is not being entirely forthcoming? >> the obama team either smelled a rat or they were highly suspicious and made the wrong decisions. >> i think that's really the choice we have to understand. i think it makes sense to call again before the house or senate former director brennan and refresh his recollection with what happened and see what, in fact, he has to say. look, we are at the beginning phases. i'm not going to rush to judgment but i sure have a lot of questions and i think the american people quite rightly do. what molly said is exactly right. we unmask at our peril. we protect the privacy and integr

many funding requests of congress and to talk about that and much more, we turn to margaret brennan, in for john dickerson this week on face the nation. thanks for joining us. a lot of people are depending on this money to get this long process of putting their lives together after harvey. you have to wonder if politics will impact the recovery bills. >> politics impacts everything. that's the one certainty here in washington. it's a long term recovery and replenishing disaster relief that the white house needs the money they're asking for nearly $6 billion, part for fema, some for small business administration loans. it's likely to go through easily on the house side. when it gets to the senate, the question is whether the politics comes in and what gets attached to it. this is a must-pass bill in many ways. there is a sense of wanting to help and reach out to houston on both sides of the aisle, but what else will get attached to the bill, we know those coming to work here on capitol hill has a long laundry list to get done in the next few weeks. it may look different at the end of the month. >

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brennan. >> let's turn to john who was on talk energy and gas prices. he's back to tell us how high he thinks the prices could go and c pipeline and one of the largest refineries will last. good to have you back, john. you correctly predicted what morgan just outlined in terms of the gas price, but since we had you on, the pipeline was partially shut down. hat seems to be one of the most developmen. >> that's right. and i believe we've raised pipeline. have it maintain its pressure and get the product to where it needs to be. that's what we're seeing now. hopefully, they get to get it back on sunday. what's exacerbating the situation is the big holiday weekend is here. this is one of the biggest driving weekend of the year lab fourth of july and memorial day and until the holiday shopping season rolls around. supply in the olks should b system. the northeast has its own of sea born product and it is coming from europe and european product that's on its way gulf of mexico, so there will be more supply on the way, but morgan referenced the national averag

in terms of threat actors and capabilities and i'm reminded of what john brennan, the former cia director, those who want to attack us can't and those who can don't want to. that truly said. it may be true today but regardless, we have to look at advanced persistent threat in a thoughtful way. one of the most thoughtful ways from an electric sector specifically is to understand is that atp, if the adversary has to be right once, they can in fact be right and that goes to the value of preparedness and the ability to operate in a degraded state. the understanding of what the motivations of a threat actor might be and how they would comport themselves in a threat. somehow, we've gotten through this entire discussion without mentioning ukraine, so i will start it now and to say that particular incident, incidents, end of 2015 and end of 2016, are particularly useful lessons for the sector that i helped to represent because it is an indication of what an attack likely would look like on electric infrastructure and that gives us an opportunity to prepare ourselves. the thought exercise, what wo

me now, cnn political commentator marc lamont hill, and talk radio host john fredericks, and cnn sports analyst christine brennan. boy, we have a lot to get to. first we're going to start with roy moore. john, you are at roy moore headquarters for the election. describe what is going on. >> reporter: well, i tell you, don, what a night it is here in alabama for judge roy moore. he was outspent by such a large margin, but i tell you what, don, this is the night the lights went out on park avenue. this is the night, september 26th, that the movement that president trump ignited and started has now transcended its leader. remember when donald trump, the candidate, said, look, i could shoot somebody on park avenue, and my base would still be with me. roy moore proved that tonight to be a complete falsehood and a myth. donald trump goes to bed tonight thinking when he got up he manages his base. president trump gets up tomorrow realizing his base now manages him. the swamp in washington, don, they put $35 million in a primary race to beat another conservative republican. either of these candidates are going to win in

brennan is here. cnn consultant and political commentator john thomas joins us. former minnesota vikings player chris kluwe is with us and cnn executive and aruthor of "say i loud" is with us. yesterday on this network you said right now the nfl has a louder megaphone than the president. make the case. >> sure, poppy. we know the president over the many months picked on all kinds of people. well, this is a group that actually has power to fight back, and all of these players, of course, have twitter accounts and have large followings. it's not just blue state america that follows these players and loves them. it's red states, too. and they're very popular and, of course, sports is a national conversation that brings in a whole different demographic. so fans who -- hey, i like that guy. i cheer for that player. now the president is attacking him? or the perception? i think that's why we're seeing such a, a fight back from the nfl and a successful weekend. i mean, if you wanted to say winners and losers, talking sports this weekend, the nfl players, and the solidar

brennan, thank you. the president of brazil just finished speaking. we'll bring president trump's remarks live. we'll bring in john dickerson moderator of "face the nation." we covered these before. how do you expect president trump's address to be different? >> well, it certainly he was critical, very critical of the u.n. as a candidate. he's sketched out an america first proposals in his presidency so far but he's used the u.n., this collective organization often in his presidency to increase sanctions on north korea and has boasted about what the u.s. has been able to do using the u.n. so he comes there both to lay out new terms but also as someone who has relied on the u.n. in dealing with north korea. i think what's important to watch here what he says to the north korean leader and what he says to china in his remarks. as opposed to generalities he can use his remarks in specific to speak to those two incidents and here's the president now. >> on behalf of the general assembly i have the honor to welcome to the united nations his excellency donald trump, president of the united states of america and to invit

and isis are looking at wmd, and they have it on a long time frame, but i'm concerned that if john brennan indeed thinks that this is a 100-year war that we're embarked on, that time is on the jihadi side. and peter was very on the money over time saying that the threat was really a low-grade, n nonexistential threat borne out of aviation. everything's bore out the prognosis so far. everyone missed the rise of isis. however, i do feel that zawahiri in particular pays heed to bin laden's dictum that he will be patient until patience is worn out, worn by patience. and i feel now with hemsa coming to the floor that there is a second or third generation of al qaeda that are more professional, better networked, more experienced, more dug into these societies like mali and pakistan, and i wonder, a, does it matter that we can't find bin laden's successor, zawahiri? does it matter that we can't even tell if baghdadi is dead or alive? and third and most importantly, what do you think of wmd? is it on their menu and will we see it? thank you. >> so, in the paper that "the american" published today,