margo shetterly, who's here, talked about her writing the book. and, actually, margo is the daughter of bob lee who was an engineer who worked at nasa with me, and so it's like a family affair. katherine, like i said, celebrated her 99th birthday in white sulfur springs, virginia, population 800. no matter what you do, with grit, determination and perseverance, you can do anything you put your mind to. >> host: aubrey, bronx, new york. good afternoon. >> caller: yes. i know -- [inaudible] >> host: i apologize, we're going to have to hang up. i don't think either of us could understand, and i apologize, aubrey, for that. but let's hear from kevin in princeton, new jersey. kevin, we are listening. you're on with astronaut and author leland melvin. >> caller: thank you for taking my call, mr. melvin. question: how soon might a young person begin training academically for a mission in space? and exactly -- or not exactly, but relatively speaking how much mathematics does that program entail? >> guest: so training to become an astronaut starts, i think