so i thought the plan i thought the plan was good but sam brownback did that plan i did and i came in after he had announced his plan but that's ok yeah i think sam brownback plan did help kansas and there kansas has lots of other things going on agricultural prices falling oil prices falling and all of that i thought maybe it's not a big. now the big the big test years because of sam brownback plan missouri cut its tax rate by ten percent across the board in response so that they wouldn't lose all the jobs to kansas if if if emulation isn't the biggest form of flattery i don't know what it would have republicans republicans rolling back your tax fund isn't evidence that is a failure i don't know what is you said to me in twenty fourteen given the time you didn't decide and then you said give it more time it'll be great just what you're saying now about trump's tax plan your predictions didn't work then they're not going to now is what many would say. that many would be wrong are you saying it was a bad plan nothing to do with you or you still think it was a good plan and you don't bu

have been a general out of the war and it probably was helped a lot and where and when sam brownback said you know we're going to turn kansas into the great proof of reaganomics he destroyed kansas i mean you know he's destroyed he has already left it he's slinking off to be his predecessor bassinet as a strategy he have in this case you know john the administration he definitely does any of moving along and yet another example of the huge. excuse me a study out of princeton you know that yeah. and yet another example of a huge gulf between what americans want and what their government ends up doing on behalf of large corporations a new consumer reports survey has found that the majority of americans fifty seven percent support the current net neutrality regulations the ban internet service providers from blocking or discriminating against lawful content on the internet donald trump's of c.c. wants to repeal these protections and in effect turn our internet into something resembling china's always with corporations blocking websites instead of the government why are republicans so ou

governor sam brownback cut personal income tax rates and scrapped taxes altogether for mccracken's.businesses lik she saved thousands of dollars and was able to reinvest in her startup due to the tax break. >> the realization of several thousands of dollars, which goes back into the business in the form of hiring other small businesses to help with our website, do seo, hire another employee, and most recently, we made a durable equipment purchase. >> reporter: but the experiment didn't go as planned. the state wound up with a budget deficit in the billions. impacting its schools, roads, and pension systems. in june 2017, the state legislature reversed the cuts and made taxes retroactive for pass throughs for the entire year. not all small businesses thought the experiment was a success even though they saved money. carl miller, owner of lark label in wichita, said the tax break wasn't enough to make a difference to his bottom line. >> it was nice little pocket change, but for 12 or $1400 a year, i couldn't go out and hire a new employee. so it didn't affect us that way. >> reporter: the burde

they want to run the economies in their states you know i mean this is worked out real well for sam brownback didn't well no i mean that this is that's the way that it's supposed to work is oh i already got i read a choice it didn't work this is something that you're going to be able to you look at our great california's doing well it california california that the best economy in the country it's interesting they have extended themselves on a lot a lot of government programs they are they are using the mortgage interest rate at the. detriment of the people in illinois so i mean california is doing a lot of what they're doing based on big government programs they've done a very good job of getting what you've got to have big government programs in order to deal with big corporations i mean you've got these fossil fuel companies these are multi-billion dollar corporations they have the ability to wipe out local governments to to roll over all this and yet how many states if you just say have implemented cap and trade and you also had sarah pailin up in alaska that went after big oil and now in

former governor sam brownback said it would be four years, they would see 100,000 jobs.hey lowered taxes on art's advice specifically and a state of about 3 million people created just 28,000 jobs between january of 2014 and the same time in 2017. we are a year short but way below that. over in nebraska which has a yet smaller population of 2 million people, didn't cut taxes, job growth in the same period was 35,000. i don't know, there's no evidence if you cut corporate taxes that it results in job growth at this level. art very wisely cites 1986 and much bigger cut. that's not actually what we are talking about. i want to point out, art, we are old friends, i don't know why you didn't take issue with how fat i was. i appreciate you not discussing that. >> what can i say, a chubby ali is a very nice ali. >> he looks great. i want you to answer his question. if you look at the experience of kansas, they did what you said, they cut the corporate tax rate and it did not result in job creation. what happened? >> kansas is an example of itself, they have a lot of other thing

paul ryan and a staffer for sam brownback wrote a series of letters that helped kill that bill.re is no reason to believe he has changed at all. earlier this year, we had spoke to ryan on this show and he assured us the house could working hard to fund the border wall. that was a lie, and not the only one the g.o.p. leadership is told its voters. nominally, congress is told by republicans, but on immigration, democrats control the agenda. why is that? because paul ryan and many other corporate republicans agree with them on every substantial point related to immigration. president trump goes along with this because he wants a legislative victory badly and his party is incapable of giving him one. this arrangement cannot last forever. a part of this out of sync with its own borders will collapse and splintered. republicans don't have to agree on every policy detail, obviously, but there ought to be some nonnegotiable principles at the center of it all. borders are real. citizenship matters. america comes first. if you can't say any of that with a straight face and mean it and act

they have taken sam brownback and they've jettisoned him into the ether in some type of ambassador to religion i think at this point. for the trump administration. but the fact of the matter is, everything they're doing in washington, everything they're proposing right now, was done. there was a five-year experiment in kansas. it destroyed the kansas economy. it destroyed their educational system. this story is going to get out. so if they don't do this super quick, they're going to have a similar problem they had with the affordable care act. >> the problem, maddie, do you think that the republicans are in a situation similar to the aca? it struck me in the aca, republicans were trying to sell repeal and replace sort of on rib lals' terms, right? so they were saying, lower premium, more coverage. even though the bill wasn't going to do that. here you have republicans saying, as opposed to making a supply side argument about why you have to cut taxes on capital and why people at the top of the income distribution need to pay less in taxes, they're making an argument fundamentally sayi

former governor sam brownback said it would be four years, they would see 100,000 jobs.wered taxes on art's advice specifically and a state of about 3 million people created just 28,000 jobs between january of 2014 and the same time in 2017. we are a year short but way below that. over in nebraska which has a yet smaller population of 2 million people, didn't cut taxes, job growth in the same period was 35,000. i don't know, there's no evidence if you cut corporate taxes that it results in job growth at this level. art very wisely cites 1986 and much bigger cut. that's not actually what we are talking about. i want to point out, art, we are old friends, i don't know why you didn't take issue with how fat i was. i appreciate you not discussing that. >> what can i say, a chubby ali is a very nice ali. >> he looks great. i want you to answer his question. if you look at the experience of kansas, they did what you said, they cut the corporate tax rate and it did not result in job creation. what happened? >> kansas is an example of itself, they have a lot of other things, it