certain athletes have taken it upon themselves to be more than athletes -- billie jean king, maria navratilova of the ones i wrote about in the book. and i think it's impressive how they took this platform and instead of using it for their personal gain, they'll use it to change the world in a positive manner. >> is that just an opportunity for athletes or duty or obligation for athletes? >> i think it's an opportunity. i wouldn't put it on anyone else to say what you have to do, especially if you may not be informed just the same as i think if you're out there committed 100% to your sport and you don't have time to think about social justice or activism or anything like that, i am not faulting you for that. but then i just wondz expect you to speak up or to have your opinion on it until you become educated on that topic. so i don't fault them for that because they're out there doing their jobs just the same as i wouldn't fault an accountant or plumber for not having an opinion or not voicing their opinion on whatever activist issue is the one at hand right now. >> as a dodgers fan, my condole