david miliband, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. to be back.emoralising is it travelling the world trying to persuade governments that they should read doing many things they are not doing to address this global migration crisis? well, looking at the statistics, it is undoubtedly depressing. record numbers of people being displaced by conflict and persecution, as you say. but actually, the human stories are of resilience and extraordinary courage and even renewal in the most difficult of circumstances. i think it was a filmmaker who went to the congo and said if you look at the statistics you are depressed but if you look at the people you have hope. as the head of an ngo, that is certainly the kind of philosophy or insight i get from the work we do around the world. i don't mean to diminish the importance of a one—on—one experience you have when you go to this conflict zones, but in the end, the statistics matter more, because it is the collective experience that really matters. if i plucked out of the air one crisis unfolding right now, that

. >> joining us on set this morning is david miliband, the international rescue committee president andso the author of a new book called rescue, refugees and the political crisis of our time david, thank you very much for being with us. >> they don't seem to be getting better i think they're getting worse. >> you're right that the number of refer gees are growing. they're a symptom of our failure to manage the global system, where the political crisis i point is that without government interventions, effective government intervention, ewe going to end up with companies tipping over the wrej, they actually get off aid, skps there are some examples that i point to, things that can make a difference for the good. >> you mentioned jordsan, and that may be the most extreme situation where something like 20% are north of the population is now a population of refugees. >> it's a country that is the second closest ally of the u.s. in the middle east it's a country with about 16% or 17% of the population now syrian refugees they've had 650,000 registered refugees and another 600,000 unregistere