for more, i spoke a short time ago with "new york times" cairo bureau chief declan walsh.lan walsh, thank you for joining us. this seems to have been an unusually ruthless attack. they kept on shooting as the ambulances arrived? >> absolutely, that's right. there were -- the gunmen arrived in several vehicles. they split up into teams. some of the gunmen went inside the mosque. they started shooting the worshipers immediately after a bomb had gone off. other gunmen waited outside and shot people as they tried to flee. >> woodruff: and it was unusual that, in the past, they have been going typically after christians. this time, it was at a mosque. >> that's right. this is extremely unusual. this attack the extremely unusual both by the size of the attack, the number of people who have been killed. this is the largest attack in modern egyptian history, and it's also, as you say, the target. over the last year the islamic state have carried out attacks on coptic christian churches in egypt but not a muslim mosque. we do not have a claim of responsibility for this attack but i